The Tax System Explained in Simple Terms

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Sometimes politicians, journalists and others exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the rich!" and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really mean? Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, I hope the following will help. Please read it carefully.

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." Dinner for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to eat their meal.

So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start eating overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia
 
And for those living in Commonwealths, here is my short-version:
"Virginia is a Commonwealth, they keep you Common by taking your Wealth"

DaddyDett
 
God, please help us to pass the FAIR TAX PLAN!!!!!!! Help us to restore our property rights. And please help us to seal our southern border!!!

What a life we would have in America if these problems were addressed. Not going to happen, neither party supports these changes. The Rep majority can do nothing but accept the blame (and take their damn lobbist payoffs Dems too, but they aren't a majority). Ugh! :mad: :grumpy: :mad: :grumpy: :thumbdn:
 
Bladite said:
worth a laught...

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And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start eating overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

First, there are a few problems with the analogy of ten men sitting down to dinner at the same table. First, women and children have to eat as well. Second, there is no common table for all taxpayers. At the bottom of the scale we have children getting inadequate nutrition though their parent/parents may work more than one job. At the top we have the champagne, cavier, and prime rib set to whom adequate nutrition is a factor only insofar as the quest for delicacy and novelty may ignor basic physiological needs. So the common dinner table analogy with everyone eating the same meal fails to adequately represent the realities of the extreme differences in wealth and compensation that exist within American culture.

A second unrealistic factor in the dinner table analogy is that poor and wealthy alike would use their tax break for food. The poor certainly would use the additional funds for food or other basic needs, but the wealthy would more likely have their eye on a second vacation home or a new yacht. I believe the latest comparison of executive compensation with the average salary of their employees was about 350 to 1. (Note: It is my understanding that when the French revolution occured the ratio had risen to 700; so there are limits). Furthermore, this compensation gap has been rising for the past decade at least and continues to rise today. The wealthy have been waging class warfare on the middle class and below (not the other way around) and they are winning decisively.

I realize that differences in compensation are associated with different levels of skill, training and ability for most of our population; this is appropriate. But the same model does not necessarily apply at the CEO level. What of the company president who packs the board with personal friends and relatives, compensates them well in excess of customary and appropriate rates, and then negotiates a sweetheart deal for himself, complete with golden parachute and an outlandish severance package that he receives whether he fails at his job or not. This is not the treatment you or I would receive if we fail at our jobs, nor should it be.

National ecconomics and tax structure are complex issues that do not lend themselves well to simple allegorical models. Rather, the allegory is usually set up in advance of it's presentation to lead to a specific selected conclusion.
 
aproy1101 said:
God, please help us to pass the FAIR TAX PLAN!!!!!!! Help us to restore our property rights. And please help us to seal our southern border!!!

What a life we would have in America if these problems were addressed. Not going to happen, neither party supports these changes. The Rep majority can do nothing but accept the blame (and take their damn lobbist payoffs Dems too, but they aren't a majority). Ugh! :mad: :grumpy: :mad: :grumpy: :thumbdn:


It may not be obvious from my initial post Andy, but I agree on all points. I was brousing the internet on fair tax plans when I came up with the following quote:

"People want JUST taxes more than they want LOWER taxes." - Will Rogers

I thinks that sums it up for me.:thumbup:
 
Bill thats the prayer I tought my daughter to say before bed.:D
 
More like:

"Enter on Line 1 of Form 1040EZ total income (from whatever source derived) earned during the calendar year.

Sign Form 1040EZ.

Write check to IRS in the amount entered on Line 1.

Insert check and Form 1040EZ in envelope provided.

Affix First Class Postage and deposit in the U.S. Mail."
 
Thomas Linton said:
More like:

"Enter on Line 1 of Form 1040EZ total income (from whatever source derived) earned during the calendar year.

Sign Form 1040EZ.

Write check to IRS in the amount entered on Line 1.

Insert check and Form 1040EZ in envelope provided.

Affix First Class Postage and deposit in the U.S. Mail."

What! No deductions?
 
Thomas Linton said:
Nope. No "credits" neither. Stand and deliver.

Well, it certainly qualifies as a "flat rate" tax. After you pay it you are flat broke.;)
 
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