The ten rules in a crisis situation .

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# 1 : When in doubt , knock em out ! L:O:L

O:K: maybe a bit drastic though similar tactics have been necessary in the past . Perhaps if I had known more refined methods such drastic measures might have been avoided .

Do you have a set of guidelines you live by in crisis situations ? Situations where you have to deal with unreasonable people . Lets leave this shy of things that go bang just for the sake of keeping things within certain bounds .

I,ll throw out a couple of general things I believe and wish I could follow better .

Prevention is half the battle . Dress well . Well kept clothing , shoes and grooming present an image that won,t attrast criminals looking for an easy score . I wish I could follow this one better .

Don,t flash your cash . I,m not talking about waving folding money around . Expensive jewelry can make some people make dumb mistakes .

I,m not really addressing the question with those two little tidbits . Are there specific things you do to avoid or get yourself out of unpleasant situations ?
 
When my daughters were young, I enrolled them in a Chimera class (for women only--not even Dads allowed in class) which stressed awareness, body language, awareness, some aggressive IMMEDIATE responses, etc.

The following is not far from the same instruction, just has some martial reference:

Strategy for the Street
What Would Sun Tzu Do In A Situation Like This?
By Stefan Verstappen
Originally published in Black Belt Magazine June '01

What would you do if you found yourself in a dead end alley, at three in the morning, in the middle of gang town, and you’re surrounded by a dozen armed men?

This is the type of question so often heard in martial arts schools these days and what the questioner usually wants to know is how to rip someone’s head off.

The current trend is to judge a martial art according to its combat worthiness on the street. This increasing need to know what will work on the streets has spawned numerous schools, from Russian Spetznaz and Navy Seal Training, to styles invented by bouncers, bodyguards, and bikers. Students of these styles can rest assured that what they are learning will truly work on the street. The problem with this approach is that it implies that the only answer that martial arts has to offer about conflict, is to resolve it with violence. But is this what martial art were designed to do? For traditionalists, martial arts are intended to teach, in addition to physical, mental, and spiritual discipline, basic survival. Man as a species rose to the top of the food chain as a result of his wits, an observation not lost on the ancient generals of old China. For the cunning, to face an enemy in open confrontation would be a fourth rate solution for someone who has already made three serious mistakes: Not knowing the territory, not moving about in secrecy, and not evading a direct attack. It is only when all your strategies and tactics have failed, that you resort to ripping someone’s head off.

The following will correlate crime prevention and street smarts with the writings of East Asian military strategists to show that the ancient battlefield and the modern urban jungle are not so different after all.

Know Your Terrain

We are not fit to lead an army on the march unless we are familiar with the face of the country and its terrain. We are unable to take advantage of natural terrain unless you use local guides.

Sun Tzu

The most important piece of advice is to always know where you’re going and what the local terrain will be. Whenever you go on vacation, visit friends, attend a new school, or travel through unknown areas, find out what the neighborhood is like. Ask locals, such as waitresses, bartenders, taxi drivers, police, tourist and travel agents, questions such as: is the area known for street crime? Is there a lot of gang activity? Do buses and taxis go there after dark? Is it an area you should avoid entering? If it is, then don’t go there. It’s that simple.

Stay Alert

In social and professional relationships, the attitude is the same as that of the warrior, even when there is no discord. The mindfulness to observe the dynamic of situations, even in a group, is the art of war.

Yagyu Munenori, The Book of Family Traditions in the Art of War.

Keep alert, walk with a purpose, be attentive to your surroundings and prepare yourself mentally for an attack. Think of a plan of action you would follow if you were attacked. Consider where you could run to for help such as the nearest police or fire station. When entering social situations scan the crowd for troublemakers, the loud and obnoxious, the drunks, and the brooding loners. Note exits, cull-de-sacks, and always sit facing the entrance.

Expect The Unexpected

It is a doctrine of war not to assume the enemy will not come, but rather to rely on one's readiness to meet him; not to presume that he will not attack, but rather to make one's self invincible.

Sun Tzu

When you plan to walk a fair distance, wear footwear and clothing that are comfortable and can allow you to move quickly. Do not overburden yourself with bulky packages. Carry only the bare essentials. If you must for some reason travel through territory known for street violence then you should be well prepared: travel with friends, carry a cell phone with the speed dial set for 911, prepare a decoy wallet, carry a legally concealable weapon.

Move Silently

Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as the night.

Sun Tzu

Play the `Grey Man' which means being inconspicuous while blending into the background. Dress like the locals, the more one is different, the easier it is to single you out. Do not display large sums of cash in public or wear highly visible and expensive jewelry or clothes. If standing alone at night at a bus stop, avoid standing directly underneath the light, by doing so you make it easy for anyone to see that you are alone. Instead stay in the shadows away from the light so that your silhouette does not stand out. This makes it more difficult to spot you from a distance or from cruising automobiles.

Move Swiftly

Do not linger in isolated areas. On difficult ground keep moving.

Sun Tzu

Do not allow strangers to stop you on the street for conversations, to give directions, or to light a cigarette. These are stalling techniques used to set up an attack. Walk facing oncoming traffic while walking near the curb away from dark alleys and doorways.

Avoid Contention

One who excels as a warrior does not appear formidable; one who excels in defeating the enemy does not join issue. This is known as the virtue of non-contention

Lao Zi

If confronted by a mugger or gang, co-operate. Listen to what they say, and always answer in the affirmative in a quite, calm, voice. Be polite, while you might feel angry and believe you could overpower the robber, it is nevertheless essential that you pretend to be intimidated. This will allow the robber to relax his guard, then, if you feel you have no alternative but to attack, you can use your meek appearance to launch a surprise attack. Acting hostile and indignant may encourage the criminal to use a weapon that may or may not be visible. Personal safety is more important than material things. Resist only to protect yourself from harm, not to protect your belongings.

Hide Your Intentions

When the Sage is about to move, he will certainly display a stupid countenance.

The Six Secret Teachings of the Tai Gong

Another alternative when faced by a group of attackers is to play stupid. Say little or nothing and continually nod your head. Pretend to be mentally unbalanced. Act as though you have no idea what's going on, drool slightly and let mucus run out of your nose. Most ignorant people are somewhat afraid of 'crazy' people, as though madness was infectious. In a street gang confrontation, humiliating an idiot brings only little face and hopefully they will get tired and leave. The important thing is to survive. Do not be led astray by stories of martial arts heroes who beat multiple attackers one after the other, the odds are just too much against your winning.

Use Distractions

In single combat also, seize opportunities, and employ various tricks: Feint blows and thrusts and make your opponent think that you are going to strike him. When in this manner, you have induced a state of confusion in the opponent, take advantage of it and win.

Miyamoto Musashi

If the demand is for money take out your cash and hold it up for the attacker to see. Then throw it on the ground between you and the assailant while backing away. When he bends to pick up the money, make a run for it.

If traveling through high risk areas carry a decoy wad, that is a wallet that has a real money bill on the outside but play money or paper cut to size on the inside. It may include credit cards that look official but are really under phony names and addresses (Cut out credit card ads from a magazine and glue them to cardboard). The decoy should look valuable, then if attacked or robbed you can throw the decoy in one direction while carefully and quickly leaving in the opposite direction. If the assailant is really after only your money then he will go for the decoy rather than you.

Escape and Evade

When overwhelmed, you don't fight; you surrender, compromise, or flee. Surrender is complete defeat, compromise is half defeat, flight is not defeat. As long as you are not defeated, you have another chance to win.

The Thirty-Six Strategies

If given the opportunity, run. Try to get a good lead on your assailant and run towards lighted and crowded areas. Try to make the terrain between you and the attackers more difficult to cross. Knock things over as you run such as garbage cans, mail boxes, signs, tables, chairs, lamps, broken bottles. If it seems you cannot escape attract attention by throwing something heavy through the window of a house if in a residential area or storefront in a commercial area. The sound of breaking glass is distinct and always rouses interest to see what is being broken. In a store window this will set off an alarm that will attract attention and the police.

Choose the Place of Battle

It is an advantage to choose the time and place for battle. In this way you know when and where the battle will take place, while your enemy does not

The Thirty-Six Strategies

Never allow the assailant to take you to another location. If his purpose is to rob you then he will be satisfied with the money tossed down. If he tries to bring you to another location there is usually an ulterior motive. As a rule, anytime someone wants to take you to another location it is because they will have a greater advantage, and you will have less chance of being rescued. If you are going to have to fight it out, then do it before the odds are any more in the attacker's favor.

Conclusion

Everyone has heard the old saying; live by the sword, die by the sword. If you are taught that aggression is best resolved by more aggression you will in the end only lose. After all no matter how strong and fast you are now someday you will get old, then what do you do?

There is also another old saying; patience and cunning beats youth and energy.

from:http://www.chinastrategies.com/mastrategy.htm
 
I guess some ideas that make some sense to me are.............

*Choose your friends well. Hanging out with people that are good to you, but that seem to have a hard time keeping out of trouble with others, could bring you problems as well.

*Avoid being in shady areas. Shady areas seem to contain more than a fair share of shady characters.

*Don't sweat the little stuff. Allowing yourself to get all worked up over small issues can erupt into big trouble. "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me", actually made sense for the 8 year old, as well as working pretty well for the 80 year old.

*Feel the heat coming on, get out of the kitchen. Problem seems to be developing, trying to remove yourself from it may keep you from getting burnt.

*Avoid road rage. Most of us have some choice words while running into situations on the road, but please maintain the rage within your own car. Avoid directing it up and personal with other drivers. This includes no stopping to confront another driver you are pissed off at. No following or tailgating under anger. Just do your mumbling cursing within the confines of your vehicle, and try not to purposely catch the attention of the driver you are pissed off at, or he may do something stupid as well.

*If you are trying to resolve a situation with another person, and that other person becomes irate, do not continue to try to rationalize with that person, he may simply not be the rational type. You may have to consider other avenues in resolving the situation, or you may not be able to resolve the matter at all, but whatever it is is probably not worth being killed or being sent to jail for.

*If these and other measures fail, and a bad situation is unavoidable, simply prepare yourself, (physically and mentally), to defend yourself (in whichever manner "you" choose fits the situation).

I am 40 years old, and thus far have used these and other methods to avoid situations that can get me or someone else seriously injured, killed, or landed in jail.

I'm not saying that being extra careful in ones decisions will always protect you, but it's truly good prevention in most cases.

I have a wife, two kids, I've never been to jail, have a full carry pistol license, and feel myself to be a very rational person. I want to continue with this record. But I fully understand that physical force or even deadly physical force may be forced upon a person to use. I like prevention much much better, but if the other is absolutely the only choice one has in a particular situation, then it will have to be used.
 
Whatever you choose it is the right thing if you act from your heart. There is often no time to plan or strategize.

I assume you mean a split second crisis decision.
 
MauiRob said:
Whatever you choose it is the right thing if you act from your heart. There is often no time to plan or strategize.

I assume you mean a split second crisis decision.

Rob , I respect what you are saying and agree with it to a certain extent .
I will put it in words that don,t paralell your thnking thoughthere is a common theme . : Sometimes running on auto-pilot is the best solution. "
When there is no time to think I often let my body do my thinking for me .
Of course the brain is in there somewhere . I find it can allow me to relax in a situation that might best be served in this manner .

That having been said . The stategies and tactics offered to me in the last few posts is great . We all know some of them . There are several which are foreign to me . This is good as it asks me to think in a different manner which allows my mind to stay flexible . I will have to go over a couple of the posts again . Good stuff .
 
Stay aware. No daydreaming. This one is probably the most important.

Whenever you're reading a violent crime survivor's account of the situation, take heed of how many times they state that they were surprised or that they saw something that didn't look right but took no action. This should be a warning.

Get some training and practice. It takes a few hundred repetitions to get something down right and a few thousand to really make it muscle memory. If you're staying aware and using sensible risk assessment during your daily activities you will probably never need it, but practice it anyway. If you are surprised and panic, cognitant thought will become difficult (if not downright impossible) and your muscles are going to do what they've been trained to do.

Stay as physically fit as you can manage. If all other things are equal, the guy in better shape will probably win. This is pretty tough for some people (myself included) but it's worth the effort. If your options include running like hell (and they should), it would be a good idea to be a decent runner.
 
Dave not that I,ve never run, I have a hard time showing my back to an opponent . Even when the older grades would chase after the younger grades in school I couldn,t run . Course it wasn,t too healthy to stick around either .
I can remember a time when they just let me go cause I didn,t run .
Being 250 plus pounds now and out of shape doesn,t help either .
The Malamute is looking to me for a walk so I think I,ll go shed a few grams of love handle . Thanks .
 
Folks, it is possible to over analyze and over plan. The reason for training is to prepare mind, soul, and body against that day when you must...act. One thing DEA taught me that isn't in the Manual..."the very best operational plan lasts only until the first shot is fired. Then, unless you have a team that has fought together many times (until you instinctively know how your people will react), it's every poor b@$t^rd for himself." Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance. That may be true, but practice will carry you through the tough spots.
 
My personal rules in a crisis situation:

1. Stay low.

2. Move fast.

3. Think smart.

4. If you're going to go, make sure you take along plenty of company.
 
Fight to the death before getting in the car. Wherever he wants to take you will be far, far worse than where you are.

Ladies, never tell your man you are leaving him in person. Use the telephone from an undisclosed location.
 
I am very cautious, some may say paranoid... but no matter what I am doing I am always on the lookout for a potential attacker. On more than one occaision I have prepared myself for an attack - followed by a gang late at night - I am not small and it is easy to see that I am not weak, so I think that helps. It is dangerous in the city, but so far, I haven't actually been attacked. I have, with no advanced knowledge that it was common practice, created a decoy wallet for my brother in law to have with him at work as he has been robbed at least twice in the past. I am still collecting materials to make another one - those credit card solicitor envelops with the fake cardboard or cheap plastic credit cards are excellent... they have no information on them relating to you, and they look real at first glance. Also, business cards that have no connection with you are great fillers: not-so-local restaurants and solicitor cards are good.
 
Bandit5 said:
I am very cautious, some may say paranoid... but no matter what I am doing I am always on the lookout for a potential attacker. On more than one occaision I have prepared myself for an attack - followed by a gang late at night - I am not small and it is easy to see that I am not weak, so I think that helps. It is dangerous in the city, but so far, I haven't actually been attacked. I have, with no advanced knowledge that it was common practice, created a decoy wallet for my brother in law to have with him at work as he has been robbed at least twice in the past. I am still collecting materials to make another one - those credit card solicitor envelops with the fake cardboard or cheap plastic credit cards are excellent... they have no information on them relating to you, and they look real at first glance. Also, business cards that have no connection with you are great fillers: not-so-local restaurants and solicitor cards are good.

That's very clever :)
 
Like others have said, keep your wits about you at all times. It's not hard and it's not paranoia to develop routing your gut feelings to your brain. Your spidy sense goes off, ask yourself what made it do so. Assess and act. Personally, i preprocess situations. I don't want to be caught in a situation where a stessor has me weeping and flapping my arms.
Always assume no one else knows what the hell is going on. Hopefully, you will be around cool headed people that will act accordingly. However, i never bank on this. Probably a character flaw on my part, but it tends to keep me out of tight spaces.
Know how to get away. If you think that you could potentially be in a situation where you will be grabbed (which would be almost everybody), learn fundimental escape moves. Hell, i learned mine in highschool athletics. "Get skinny" they called it in football. Make yourself small to squeeze between two large people quickly. "Wrist control" in wrestling has gotten me out of more than a few drunken brawls without coming to blows. A grapple is a sign of power. A suggestive posture that the person grabbing the other person's arm, shoulder, or clothing feels he or she has the upperhand, the psychological advantage, and gumption to go through with violence. Contact with your person will feed the probabilities of action on their behalf. Also, a quick and forceful breaking of this grip tends to take some of the wind out of their sails. A brawler will have to give you another look over before his attack, a criminal might view you as a less than ideal target.
Carry yourself in way that shows that you are alert, calm, and strong. This doesn't require a pimp strut, but walk tall, look around, "be big". Slumped shoulders and a dazed look could make you a target.
Always, always think. You have one of the most advanced neural computers in the world tucked in your noodle. it processes info faster than you can move. It detects patterns and works out sollutions before the cognitive part of your brain even knows what's going on. Your brain can probably get you out of 90% of situations with a heads up and a practiced scenario.

Jake
 
Kevin the grey said:
# 1 : When in doubt , knock em out ! L:O:L

O:K: maybe a bit drastic though similar tactics have been necessary in the past . Perhaps if I had known more refined methods such drastic measures might have been avoided .

Do you have a set of guidelines you live by in crisis situations ? Situations where you have to deal with unreasonable people . Lets leave this shy of things that go bang just for the sake of keeping things within certain bounds .

I,ll throw out a couple of general things I believe and wish I could follow better .

Prevention is half the battle . Dress well . Well kept clothing , shoes and grooming present an image that won,t attrast criminals looking for an easy score . I wish I could follow this one better .

Don,t flash your cash . I,m not talking about waving folding money around . Expensive jewelry can make some people make dumb mistakes .

I,m not really addressing the question with those two little tidbits . Are there specific things you do to avoid or get yourself out of unpleasant situations ?

Hi Kevin:

Your question is very far ranging. You mention dressing in a certain way, etc to avoid trouble. It could also make you a mark.

I was paid for twenty years to handle trouble and fight other people's battles. Now, I'm tired and try very hard to mind my own business and keep to myself. My opinion is probably jaded.

But, I will not dress to avoid trouble. Although I'm not sure what that entails. Nor will I placate scum. I usually dress bikerish when not at work. Jeans, boots, loose shirts or vest. You know. I do my best to avoid issues with others. I too, carry a licensed concealed weapon/s and I know that using is truly something to be avoided.

This may come across as really stupid but sums it up. I heard it in a movie that had John Wayne in it. It is also a signature used by a forumite somewhere. I can't remember the exact words. It boiled down to being considerate of others and not tolerating inconsiderate behavior in return. Not being rude or tolerating it in return. It could be considerd respecting another persons "space" and not tolerating them in yours. To not wronging others or being wronged. It was only a movie, but summed it up very well for me.

I do not look for trouble. Quite the opposite. But I will not retreat when wronged (read accosted/mugged call it what you will). Name calling doesn't count. That's just stupid.

Usually I just tell em they have made a mistake and go about my business.

There were two incidents in a bad area of Boca Raton in 2004 where I was working an IT contract. Their intent was obviously to mug me. I was dressed business casual. Allowing a glimpse of my P226 ended the confrontations. I am positive I would have been robbed or worse had I not been able to make the subtle point there were easier targets. I was outnumbered. There was no going away.

I do not believe you can avoid anything by dress or mannerisims. Carjackers and muggers care not what you look like. Maybe the more affluent you look the riper for the picking you are

I suppose I mean I avoid trouble, but won't run. That's just me.
 
Thanks Kismet, I enjoyed that.


Among other things, I try and stay hydrated. And well rested. Those two things alone do a lot for my decision making abilities.


~ bamboo
 
Bamboo said:
Thanks Kismet, I enjoyed that.


Among other things, I try and stay hydrated. And well rested. Those two things alone do a lot for my decision making abilities.


~ bamboo

Hi Bamboo:

With all that liquid in your system, what do you do to agressors?

Maybe I should try it.
 
The real trouble comes from wetting the bed getting all that rest.



~ :D :rolleyes: :foot:
 
I had written this above:

"I have a wife, two kids, I've never been to jail, have a full carry pistol license, and feel myself to be a very rational person. I want to continue with this record. But I fully understand that physical force or even deadly physical force may be forced upon a person to use. I like prevention much much better, but if the other ***(physical or deadly physical force)*** is absolutely the only choice one has in a particular situation, then it will have to be used."


It seems that the contributing posters here are on the same page thus far.
As I mentioned before, taking careful measures to help prevent certain situations is probably a good method of avoiding many of life's confrontations. We also all agree that there may be a time, or even "times" in our lives that may require us to take unpleasant drastic measure(s) to avoid something very bad from happening to us or our loved ones.

The option of "physical force", (especially that of "deadly physical force"), is an extreme, one that I hope I can live the rest of my life without ever needing :)
 
Steve Poll said:
I was outnumbered. There was no going away.
...
I suppose I mean I avoid trouble, but won't run. That's just me.

I don't have anything against running. But ... many people who think running away is a comprehensive answer do not realize that halfway competent opponents/muggers will close down that option before the victim is often even aware of the situation.
 
Howard Wallace said:
I don't have anything against running. But ... many people who think running away is a comprehensive answer do not realize that halfway competent opponents/muggers will close down that option before the victim is often even aware of the situation.

I guess one could think up hundreds, if not thousands of scenerios where one would be best served by either running or standing ones ground.

Here is just one quick example scenerio where I'd think running would be a mistake:

You and a loved one are taking a stroll on a very nice warm night. Out of nowhere, or so it seems, three fellas come out from around a building and ask you to give up your cash (one being armed with a gun). You may choose to attempt hand to hand combat if one feels extremely well trained for such a situation, or, one may choose to use one's own weapon if one has one (whatever weapon one may have and feel comfortable using), or, one may even decide to try and appease the crooks by giving them what they seem to want (hoping they will then leave you alone). For most folks, this is simply a very difficult nightmare senerio to be found in, or even to imagine being found in.

Whatever one chooses, it hopefully won't be to just turn around and run away, since it will in all likelyhood get you and your loved one shot in the back.


Here is another example scenerio, this time where running would make sense to me:

You and a loved one are taking a stroll on a very nice warm night. Out of nowhere, or so it seems, a fella comes out and starts accusing you of keying his car. The guy is obviously under the influence of something, and is accusing you of something you have not done. You stand in a defensive/protective position, shielding your loved one while you calmly try to explain to him that you had nothing to do with damaging his automobile. The guy then says........... "Wait right here you SOB, I'm going inside and get my shotgun and kill you Mother Effers!!!! In that split moment that he turns to go in and get this supposed weapon, I would feel it best for one and one's loved one to haul @@S!!!!!

Staying there, while you may feel all macho and such, could be about the dumbmest thing one could do, and could very well end up being the decision that ends up getting you and/or your loved one killed. You could defend yourself in a possible gunfight (if you are armed and willing to do so), but there are no guarantees that one will come out unscathed. Even if one does, and shoots & kills the @sshole, but there happened to be a wittness looking out of a nearby window that saw and heard the whole thing. You sure may have a hard time explaining to the cops why you had time to get out of the situation, but chose not to. May seem just as senseless and preventable to a jury (each jurisdiction has it's own way's of looking at these matters, so one should also be up to date on such things).

Those are just two scenerios, with a bunch more that could be thought up to defend either running, or not running. Maybe even more senerio's where no option seems good, especially in a quick do or die split second senerio.

This is why every senerio can be just about totally different from any other. This is why some scenerios have more "options" than others.
No blanket rule, except to try and choose the best option under the very stressful senerio you may find yourself in :)
 
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