The Wave and future legalities

Charlie Mike

Charlie Mike

Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)
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My fears are that someday our politicriminals will find out what a Wave is and outlaw it because it is faster than an auto. Do any of you see this coming?

I can't imagine life without waved Emersons :rolleyes:


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I have thought about this topic too. However, due to the fact that the Wave allows one to open the knife manually or waved adds a safety clause, in my opinion.

This might not stop "politicriminals" from whining.
 
Here in MA the Wave, along with any other device that opens a knife upon deployment is illegal. I would guess that the law was originally aimed at those leather belt-rigs that knife-fighters (and others) used to wear to automatically open Buck 110-style knives, but it pretty clearly applies to the Wave as well.
 
I see this topic come up once in awhile, and I usually hold my peace. I tend to think that the wave is not illegal, even under the mentioned laws, until 1)a cop thinks it is, 2)the DA agrees with the cop, and 3)a judge agrees with them both

Every law I have ever read or heard of was not written with the wave specifically in mind. It is not an auto, it is not spring loaded, etc.

This clearly requires the law to be interpreted.

I tend to hold my peace on this sort of issue, because I think if nobody ever mentions that the wave "might" be illegal, it will never become illegal.

So, in my two cents, the best thing for all of us to do is shut up.

Correct me if I am wrong BLADELAW.
 
I have to agree with Burke as far as MA. laws go. The good thing is the LEOs out there aren't looking for the wave yet...... I know several police officers who are very impressed with waved EKIs and none have expressed any concern over public safety issues.
I hold my Breath
 
Just had to add my 2 cents: cops dont care what knife you carry. If you dont stick it in someone or wave it around like an idiot how would we even know you have it. I understand this has nothing to do with the question asked, but i see all this paranoia all the time. I work in a big city so maybe it is different elsewhere but if i brough a collar in to the desk officer and said:"Lt. i have one under for carrying a knife" i would be laughed out of the station house. No offense intended to anyone.Use you head and most likely you will never have a problem with a cop.---Kevin
 
That's good to know that LEO's haven't "targeted" waved knives. The majority of us know that (in public) knives should stay in our pockets unless there is a need for one. What I am afraid of is when chinese POS copies start using a wave opener. Soon it may be the criminals knife of choice. When pukes are brought in with these things, it will eventually catch the eye of a legislator looking to make a name for himself.

Maybe it's just because I live in the PRK.
 
I'll agree with everyone's insightful comments...I've yet to be hassled by anyone in a position of authority for carrying a knife, and I think it is because I try to present a responsible, polite demeanor, and I am discreet in my carry habits. I just wanted folks to be aware of the fact that the wave (and yes, this is very silly), is considered an illegal device in at least one jurisdiction. Of course, if you don't go whipping it out and demonstrating reverse grip choke-holds in the mall, you probably won't have a problem. My two cents.
 
I think the wave will have an even greater chance of staying legal now when Emerson have done the clever move of producing the SARK. It´s an emergency tool not a weapon. In the eyes of legislators the wave may be looked upon as an important feature on any folder used in an extreme situation where one-hand opening is essential in completion of your mission.

By using it as a tool, either by cutting a seatbelt in your profession as a firefighter being first on the scene of a carwreck, or as an operator using the wave to be number one against a terrorist, it will create a positive image around EKI knives generally and around the wave feature especially.

I believe this is the image EKI has to sell.

I think that EKI will keep the wave legal through one easy solution: by making more quality products that can be used in different emergency situations - saving lives or taking lives.

Isn´t image everything sometimes?

/Colinz
 
I agree with Colintz. The SARK was a great idea to reinforce the "wave image" as a postive thing. But I figure it this way, I would hate to lose the wave on my mini Comm, but I would rather dremel it off than lose the knife.
Matt
 
I totally agree with kh21106, he is right on about the carry of knives or any weapons for that matter. I live in MASS and have never had a problem with an Emerson wave knife. Of course I am not whipping it out and if I do have to use it for defense, I am going to lose it anyway to an evidence locker. If I draw my CQC-7 wave or my Commander I do so with the thumb disk, the only time I might use the wave is in a defense mode.

As far as the legality of an Emerson wave knife I don't think you have much to worry about.
 
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