The "You don't need to baton" thread reminded me of a funny story...

Fletcher Knives

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A few years ago, I was out in the woods doing an overnighter with a buddy of mine. He brought his new firesteel and wanted to test it out by using it to make a fire in wet conditions. It had been raining for 2 or 3 days and everything was soaked. We got out there and he got to work.

I said, "how do you plan on getting this fire going?"
He said, "I'm going to find some tinder that'll take a spark and use the firesteel."
Then, I said, "ok, then what?"
He said, then I'm going to put some split dead wood on it. It'll be dry on the inside." I said, "okie dokie."

He started gathering up all kinds of fallen limbs and even started hacking down some small dead trees around us. Meanwhile, I'm sitting there enjoying some sipping time with my flask. He then started walking around all over the place, picking up small bits, inspecting them, then throwing them back on the ground. I just sat there watching, extremely amused. He kept looking at me with this ticked look. Finally he finds some little "dry feeling" tinder to start his fire. He spends a good 40 minutes splitting limbs and all his firewood, getting it ready to go on the fire.

Now comes the really fun part. He gets down with his little fire bundle and starts trying to get a flame going with his firesteel. I just sat there, incredibly entertained, sipping my flask.

Finally after switching tinder bundles a few times and trying his damndest to get a spark to light the bundle he gets all pissed and yells, "this is total bullsh#t!! How does anyone light a fire this way? F#CK THIS!...and you, just sitting there doing jack sh#t! Why don't you give me a hand?"

Laughing, I stand up and trot over to his little fire bundle and pile of sticks. I didn't say anything. I felt his tinder bundle and could tell it just needed a little something to get it going. I took my knife out, cut a small piece from the top of my sock, put it in the bundle, took the firesteel from him, struck it one time, and blammo... fire. After that it all took pretty easily.

He just looked at me with this disgusted look. I said, quite smartly, "dude, you walked out here with this best fire starting materials in the world on your feet. Sometimes you just have to think outside the box. Now what was the better idea, using 2 hours of gathering and dicking around with "almost dry" stuff, or sacrificing a small piece of clothing to get the fire going in a matter of seconds? I think my way was a little more efficient. Your best survival tool is your brain."

He didn't start talking to me again until he had a good amount of booze. lol
 
That's freeking funny!! I was waiting for you to say that you poured some of what was in your flask to use as a fuel to get the fire started...
 
Great story!! This is so true, and common among people who mostly sit around and read books/forums on survival instead of really practicing on a regular basis. Glad you were there to teach him an invaluable lesson!
 
That's freeking funny!! I was waiting for you to say that you poured some of what was in your flask to use as a fuel to get the fire started...

If you knew Dylan and the crap he drinks you wouldn't think that so outside the box. Most likely wouldn't even need the firesteel, it'd just burst into flames.:D
 
You also don't need a car.
Or a television.
Or a computer.
Or more than a few pairs of clothes.
Or a knife.:eek:
You don't need food with flavour.
Or a spouse with decent looks.
You don't need to go out in the woods.

I'm glad I live on a planet where we can do and have things we don't need.:thumbup:
 
And in relation to the OP, I can relate to being around fire-making incompetents...
Like the one where I had a nice little fire starting with the fire-steel and a bit of tinder, and the guy comes over and dumps a HUGE heap of branches on it, putting it out.:rolleyes:
And he couldn't understand why I was annoyed...
 
I'm guessing he wasn't using the esee steel makes life a lo easier then a regular fire steel
 
Great story! I'll keep on batoning, but it just goes to show you that regardless of what method you use, you won't get far without using your noggin! :D:thumbup:
 
I've cut the arms of my shirts off on more than one occasion in the bush, but it wasn't for lighting a fire, let's just say personal hygiene is important to me. :) :)
 
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