Theoretical INFI question

One thing I've noticed on all Busses is
that they tend to be pretty thick. I realize
for their intended uses, this is helpful,
but I wonder how INFI or M-INFI would be on
a thinner knife intended for other purposes.

Anyone know or have any ideas?

cj
 
"other purposes" such as in the kitchen? I think the edge holding plus the corrosion resistance would be extremely useful in the kitchen.
 
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I wonder... if Busse Combat introduced, say, a small utility knife with a 1/8" blade, would the terms of the warranty have to be ammended? Busse knives are known for the superior attributes of INFI, and they're also known for one of the best warranties in the industry, but a large part of the reason the knives are so indestructible is that they're so beefy - even the very tips of the knives are extremely thick.

I too would love to see other blade designs incorporate INFI steel, but quite frankly, I don't know if Busse Combat could produce a thinner blade and still offer the same warranty... For now anyway, if you want a knife that'll chop down redwoods, a Busse is the only answer, but if you want a knife that'll slice, skin, fillet, carve, etc., then INFI just isn't an option... It's really quite a shame.
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If you want higher cutting performance then thin the edge out. I cut the edge on the Basic #7 back to about 20 degrees included, convex grind.

If Busse Combat brought out a 1/8" class of low stress use knives then they would go into competition with steels that are better suited for such blades like CPM 420V (S90V) and 10V.

-Cliff
 
Thanks, Cliff. That's sort of the direction I was looking for. I love my Busses and am always impressed by them, so I was wondering how many of their unique characteristics might hold over in such lower stress knives.

I figure edge retention would be great, but I'm not sure about things like flexibility, breakage, returning to true after bending, etc.

cj
 
well any knife can be broken that's fact. Even a Battle Mistress in a vise with a hydrolic press would break. But Andy said INFI would make a superior arrow head so i gotta assume it would make a great light duty knife too. But you would just have to make sure you kept them out of the hands of people who just wanted to break a Busse. Those who would appreciate a light duty field knife wouldn't go to chopping things or trying to break it. they'd use it for cutting no more no less. And at that level 1/8" INFI would last a lifetime I think.

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I'm not sure about things like flexibility, breakage, returning to true after bending, etc.
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The steel would be way more flexible at 1/8" than at 1/4" . The thicker the steel the more it has to distort at a given curvature to account for the difference in radius between the inside and outside faces of the blade. I have a 1/8" fillet blade made out of CPM-420V that has a full taper. I can take the tip and bend it so that it has a perm. set. The blade has a uniform hardness of 59 RC. Try that with a large 1/4" 420V blade and you will have several small knives.

Now at 1/8" stock Busse blades would obviously be much weaker than at 1/4" stock, and it is not difficult to snap even a high strength 1/8" blade in half so prying would obviously be out. However this isn't a large problem, all Busse Combat would have to do is take a few of the 1/8" blades and bend them until they break and clarify what the limits are so people would know what to take them to and what not to.

Another option would be so simply start up another label and release the blades under that to clarify that they are not meant to be used for the same kinds of things as the 1/4" Combat line.

-Cliff

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Cliff, that sounds like a fantastic idea! A utility line, or a normal line (nah, no ring in that) How about a dicer line?

Incidentally, if they made a few thinner knives, i would definetly buy some of them.

James

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Our mill is currently only able to roll INFI as thin as 1/4" thick stock. (Actually .230)

Now, we are able to grind it down on surface grinders but this adds a considerable jump in price. So, what we end up with is a thinner, less beefy knife that will cost considerably more than a thicker version. Probably not very marketable.

As far as the warranty issue is concerned, fear not. Busse Combat guarantees every knife in our line. We are the only manufacturer in the industry to put a LIFETIME warranty on a rubber handle...not just the blade, but the rubber handle as well.

What does that mean? It means that even if you drop your Busse Basic into a campfire and the rubber handle is destroyed. . . we will put a new one on for you at no charge. We are, likewise, the only manufacturer who guarantees our knives to ANY owner. You do not have to keep your receipt, or any of that other nonsense that is designed to frustrate the customer and make it difficult to make a warranty claim.

Got a problem? We'll fix it! We have never, ever had an unsatisfied customer with a warranty issue. (Waiting periods and backlogs are luckily not part of the warranty. . . Whew!)


Yours in Nuclear Tough Warranties,

Jerry Busse
 
Doctor Busse:
You're commitment to your customers is unparalleled. We all appreciate the worry-free ownership of your products, and respect your unwavering conviction and integrity. I hope one day you have the resources to expand your line of offerings to include new designs such as a hunting or general utility knife for more precision use, but until then, I'll make do with what I have.

So, forumites - let's all chip in and get Jerry a new mill to accomodate our thin-blade needs. Who's with me?
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