I just went to a metal fab shop where some equipment had arrived for further fabrication work. It is for a Department of Energy application, and after the meeting we looked at the equipment. The person with whom I am contracted (a DOE person) wanted to take pictures, but the equipment was hard to see through all the shrink wrap. So she asked me if I had a knife (she knew I did). The only decision was which one to use. I pulled out my BM 556 and made quick work of it. All this was in front of about a dozen people from DOE and the shop. The only comments were, Thats a sharp knife, Thats my wish knife-I wish I had a good knife, and Is that a stainless steel blade? (we have strict requirements for this equipment, that no carbon steel tool can touch it). So maybe there is hope for the sheeple after all. But then again, this is east TN.
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There is hope for the sheeple
- Thread starter Don M
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Oh, yes, with good examples many sheeple can be won over.
After many years with my church (my wife and I always donate a knife to our silent auction), lots of guys look forward to the event. Four guys have bought knives from me directly. Lots of women, now exposed to sharp knives in the church kitchen, give me their kitchen knives for the Edge Pro. I gave my pastor a Opinel that he needed to splice speaker wires for an evangelistic meeting. I told him to keep the knife; he is never without it now.
Now when people see a new pocket clip on my jeans, they ask about the knife with rapt curiousity. They understand why some knives cost 400 bucks. It's coming along nicely.
After many years with my church (my wife and I always donate a knife to our silent auction), lots of guys look forward to the event. Four guys have bought knives from me directly. Lots of women, now exposed to sharp knives in the church kitchen, give me their kitchen knives for the Edge Pro. I gave my pastor a Opinel that he needed to splice speaker wires for an evangelistic meeting. I told him to keep the knife; he is never without it now.
Now when people see a new pocket clip on my jeans, they ask about the knife with rapt curiousity. They understand why some knives cost 400 bucks. It's coming along nicely.
CS can't touch it because it is destined for a nuclear application with very strict cleanliness requirements. It will be used in deionized water and heavy water cooling loops for target components at a large accelerator facility (2 megawatt proton beam fired at a mercury target to produce neutrons, also produces a lot of heat). The water flows through the beam path, so anything in the water can be "activated" (changed to another [radioactive] isototope) by the beam. So we don't want any contaminants going through the beam.
In this case, the environment is not corrosive to stainless steel. Corrosion rates are very low, so the amount of iron and chromium that will end up in the water is low. Plain steel, however, would be corroded very quickly. And the nuclear folks just plain like things squeaky clean. Any place carbon steel touches will show up as a stain.
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ROFL. Nice story, but theres no hope for the ones around here.
I live in an apartment complex. I went out to get the mail the other day with my Vaquero Grande in pocket ready to get the mail. I had a letter that interested me so I removed my VG and began to cut it open. I noticed a woman walking her dog behind me and completely stopped in her tracks and was staring at me. I waved and continued cutting.
Funny how sheeple are.
I live in an apartment complex. I went out to get the mail the other day with my Vaquero Grande in pocket ready to get the mail. I had a letter that interested me so I removed my VG and began to cut it open. I noticed a woman walking her dog behind me and completely stopped in her tracks and was staring at me. I waved and continued cutting.
Funny how sheeple are.
DonM,
You work at that new ORNL ion something or other project. I just read about it at the OR Atomic Museum last week. I wish I could remember the acronym. SNS, Spallation Neutron Source, that's it!
Pretty good museum, I've always wanted to go and I had a couple of hours Friday before last. OR, like Los Alamos and Hanford, have an interesting history during WWII in support of the Manhattan Project.
I work with a guy at Boeing that used to work in the nuclear industry. You're ritht: Surgical operating rooms could take lessons from the nuclear industry on cleanliness!
Space programs also have restrictions on use of carbon steel around space rated materials. For example, I was involved in the failure mode investigation for 2.5 in. vacuum valves used on the International Space Station. The SS springs inside the valves were corroding and we couldn't figure out why. It turns out that during manufacturing the valve springs, the manufacturer used a carbon steel wire brush to clean the valves after heat treatment. Although the springs were cleaned afterwards, just enough carbon steel particles were left to start corroding on the SS spring material, crapping up our valves.
Thanks,
Albin
You work at that new ORNL ion something or other project. I just read about it at the OR Atomic Museum last week. I wish I could remember the acronym. SNS, Spallation Neutron Source, that's it!
Pretty good museum, I've always wanted to go and I had a couple of hours Friday before last. OR, like Los Alamos and Hanford, have an interesting history during WWII in support of the Manhattan Project.
I work with a guy at Boeing that used to work in the nuclear industry. You're ritht: Surgical operating rooms could take lessons from the nuclear industry on cleanliness!
Space programs also have restrictions on use of carbon steel around space rated materials. For example, I was involved in the failure mode investigation for 2.5 in. vacuum valves used on the International Space Station. The SS springs inside the valves were corroding and we couldn't figure out why. It turns out that during manufacturing the valve springs, the manufacturer used a carbon steel wire brush to clean the valves after heat treatment. Although the springs were cleaned afterwards, just enough carbon steel particles were left to start corroding on the SS spring material, crapping up our valves.
Thanks,
Albin
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By the way those E. Tennesee DOE folks are EXTREMELY particular about what comes anywhere near their equipment....
. BTW, there is hope for the sheeple. As a doc in central PA, you'd be amazed how many times when something needs to be fixed or cut folks just say, "ask Dr. C, I'm sure he's got something in his office that will take care of that." I even carry a sheeple friendly folder when I wear scrubs, a CRK Mnandi clipped to my breast pocket, or a dress shirt pocket as the case may be.
. BTW, there is hope for the sheeple. As a doc in central PA, you'd be amazed how many times when something needs to be fixed or cut folks just say, "ask Dr. C, I'm sure he's got something in his office that will take care of that." I even carry a sheeple friendly folder when I wear scrubs, a CRK Mnandi clipped to my breast pocket, or a dress shirt pocket as the case may be.I've heard about this in gun manufacturing...stainless steel surfaces must be passivated after machining operations to neutralize carbon steel particles from the cutting tools.
Have also heard that red compounds like rouge (red from iron) should never be used to polish stainless steel gun parts since they'll embed the iron into the stainless and start corrosion.
Which brings up the question, should stainless knives be segregated from carbon steel knives when sharpening? That is, should you use one set of stones/sharpeners for your stainless and another for your regular steel? Otherwise the stainless knives will pick up tiny particles of the nasty inferior, oops, carbon steel and start rusting?
Or is that just way too retentive?
Have also heard that red compounds like rouge (red from iron) should never be used to polish stainless steel gun parts since they'll embed the iron into the stainless and start corrosion.
Which brings up the question, should stainless knives be segregated from carbon steel knives when sharpening? That is, should you use one set of stones/sharpeners for your stainless and another for your regular steel? Otherwise the stainless knives will pick up tiny particles of the nasty inferior, oops, carbon steel and start rusting?
Or is that just way too retentive?
It takes time and explaining, which I'm sometimes sick and tired of, but yes, there is hope. I have been able to convince nearly everybody around me that a decent knife is a good thing and at least five of my friends/colleagues actually bought a knife themselves (CRKT Point Guard/BM Ares/Spyderco Shabaria/MT LCC/MT Socom Elite). My girlfriend has a couple herself by now and just plain loves her black UDT with coloured spacers. 
I still get some critical looks from people who don't know me but nothing barmy. Still, even most reasonable people are abhorred by the idea of using a knife for fighting/SD. But so what
I still get some critical looks from people who don't know me but nothing barmy. Still, even most reasonable people are abhorred by the idea of using a knife for fighting/SD. But so what