these must be illegal are they............?

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ok i lived in montana great state for knives i carried there alot with out worries well now im in california and we take trip to san francisho if i spelt it right well we just went thru golden gate park at night freaky place well im 14 and i got a set of 3 hibben look alike throwing knives and a black cheap nylon sheath well if i hook it to my belt i wear a long shirt that covers the blades and sheat its totatly concealed well im curious are these illegal for conceal carry here http://www.countryboy-frm-rch.com/throwerpg1.html mine are all 7 inches or less in lenght and i just want to carry one on my body mabye 2 just incase we hit a bad area also im 15 if i get caught or i go thru a metal detecter will i lose my knives and also will i get jail time and my father knows about me carrying its ok with him if i dont get caught sorry about my bad grammer but im leaving in like 15 minutes bye just reply please
 
Get a gun and carry that concealed. If you get caught, it is just a misdemeanor.

Fixed blades of any length may be carried openly in CA; if they are concealed, it is a felony.

Folding knives of any length may be carried concealed.

Some municipal laws supercede state laws. I am not sure about SF, but Berkeley has a 3" limit on fixed blades, I think.

You really need to do some research. Try the search button above. Walt
 
I know you're serious Walt, but I have to ask...ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Man, there's some screwy laws in this country...

Brandon
 
so i can carry my 7 inche throwing knife in a sheath on my belt and not get in trouble at ALL IF its not-concealed
 
Walt's pegged it...you've got to open-carry those puppies.

SF's local knife ordinance is *weird* - there's a blade length limit but it only applies if you're "illegally loitering" somewhere. Many thanks to Jason (Medusaoblongata) for finding that one - EMail him for details. Near as we can tell, it's a "disarm the homeless" measure!

California is the "land of the megafolder" - there's no length limit on concealed folders, as long as they're not spring-loaded, not butterfly/BaliSong types and are "designed for manual opening" via a hole, stud or other thingmajigger attached to the blade.

See also my "blade page":
http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/blades.html - it contains links to BF thread on Calif knife law that go into more detail.

Jim
 
im gong to be in cali alot one last question what about age im 15 and im getting a buck 110 for my b-day and i want to carry it but im going with you answer concealed folder is what i want so does age matter? thanks alot u guys
 
A follow-up on the gun thing: they *just* changed the law to where Walt's no longer correct on that part, at least not in a minor's case.

The new rules say that illegal gun carry on the street is a felony UNLESS you're both the legal owner of the gun and it's been registered to you (which isn't always a requirement in this state, but it helps in this situation!). If you're the legal, registered owner and have no prior crimes that affect gun ownership (felonies or violent misdemeanors within the last 10 years) then the illegal carry is still a misdemeanor.

As a minor, Trilan_odon couldn't possibly meet the "registered" requirement, therefore he'd face a juvenile gun carry felony.

Jim
 
i just want to know if a 15 year old kid turning 15 march 21 can carry a buck 110 lock back knife concealed or any other concealed folder knife
 
legaly is my question can i carry my folders legaly with out worry or to worry to much thanks all u guys again
 
In San Francisco, it is illegal for anyone other than your parents to give or sell you a knife, but there's no law against you carrying one because of your age.

SF's law against loitering with a concealed weapon I'll post here, but we'd need a lawyer to figure it out. I've heard that it's rarely enforced. I figure the cops could arrest you under it if they wanted to, but they'd have a hard time getting it to stick in court. I don't pay much attention to it, but here it is anyway:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SEC. 1291. PROHIBITING LOITERING WHILE CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS.

(a) As used in this Section, but in no wise limited thereto, “dangerous or deadly weapon” shall mean: any knife with a blade
three inches or more in length; any spring-blade, switch-blade, or snap-blade or other similar type knife; any knife any blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device; any ice pick, or similar sharp, stabbing tool; any straight edge razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle; any cutting, stabbing, bludgeoning weapon or device capable of inflicting grievous bodily harm.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, while carrying concealed upon his person any dangerous or deadly weapon, to loaf or
loiter upon any public street, sidewalk, or alley, or to wander about from place to place, with no lawful business thereby to perform, or to hide, lurk, loiter upon or about the premises of another.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person who has concealed upon his person or who has in his immediate physical possession
any dangerous or deadly weapon to engage in any fight or to participate in any other rough or disorderly conduct upon any public
place or way or upon the premises of another.
(d) It shall be unlawful for any person who has concealed upon his person any dangerous or deadly weapon to loiter about
any place where intoxicating liquors are sold or any other place of public resort.
(e) The foregoing restrictions shall not be deemed to prohibit the carrying of ordinary tools or equipment carried in good faith for uses of honest work, trade or business or for the purpose of legitimate recreation. (Amended by Ord. 9939, Series of 1939, App. 10/17/56)</font>

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thank you thank you thank you now i can carry my folders and i never loiter i only7 go on trips with my mom and dad and my family and they say its ok if i have a knife with there permission and my mom wants me to carry a knife when im with her just incase we end up some where bad im like 235 to 250 pounds and im 15 and she likes me to protect her because she is a small little women and im a big guy and if i have a folder i can make it hard on some guy wanting trouble but im home schooled so i never go any where with out my parents or with my parents permission and my dad tells me its ok to carry a knife unless we go to the bank or air port so thanks alot you guys
 
DONT TRY ANYTHING.
if you are held up,give them what they want.dont fight it.you are not a kung fu master,your not an expert knife fighter either.
just give them your wallet and/or purse and whatever else they want.its not worth dying over.
 
Good Evening.
It is I, THE GREAT AND POWERFUL VAMPIRE GERBIL!

Please allow me to claify matters.
You may not be aware of this, but I am the inventor of knives and guns. Therefore, my statements carry more weight that those of other well meaning individuals, particularly those of Walt Welch and Jim March.

Walt is only an MD. He must have about 30 years experience in the medical field, so obviously nothing he says can be taken as Gospel.
Ditto, Jim March.
I don't remember what Jim does for a living, but from what I can tell, he has an IQ of about 370.
I am much smarter and powerfuller than him.

Now, that outta the way, what you have to do is get some fisionable material, preferably Uranium 235. Get about a pound of this.
(I'm not sure where in California this is available, but Walt or Jim could probably help you with that.)

Once you have this material, stuff it in your pockets. You can use a saws-all, metal file or just bite the pieces to form them into pocketsize lumps.

If you're ever in a bad area, the sight of you walking down the street with a glowing aura will convince the nefarious that you are indeed one that should not be trifled with.

In the event that you are trifled with by someone that doesn't appreciate your glowingness, remove one of the chunks and stuff it in their mouth. Try not to laugh as they scream for mercy as their skin begins to boil.
For the record, I checked out the California Legislation page and there is no statute that prohibits a minor from shoving uranium 235 into an attacker's mouth, so long as it is done in self defense.

Now that this has all been sorted out, you can spend more time trying to determine your age. You have stated multiple times, that you are 14 and 15. I suggest contacting your parents for this information, or, if you are in the same boat that I was at your age, contact the zoo.

Superiorly Yours,
Vampire Gerbil
King of California
(It's in my backyard)

PS - Unless you are 6' 5 or more, my self defense tip will help you shed some of those unwanted (I assume??) pounds.

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[This message has been edited by Vampire Gerbil (edited 03-12-2001).]
 
Good Evening.
It is I again.

I missed the part about your mom wanting you to carry a knife as a means of protection in case someone messes with her.
She is truly wise beyond her teen years!
I was going to let this pass until I saw Morris' silly advice.
He advises you to do nothing! To hand over your purse!
Perhaps that is what Morris would do.
Morris is a 36 pound Albanian dwarf. He has been conditioned to surrender at the slightest provocation.
Think of Morris as a little version of France, and allow me to tell this little tale.

When I was a little puppy, my mama forbid me to carry weapons. We were Amish Gerbils, and it was against our faith.
Still, when I was 14and 15, I carried a cocked and locked Browning .50 in my pants. At that tender age, I never realized why I would get drooling looks from other mothers, nor could I understand the looks of anger/jealousy from the menfolk in my village.
Once, when I was 15 and 16, going on 23, my mama and I were walking to town, trying to ignore the tauts of the Englischer teens that were following us as we strolled down the street.
I could take it no more and I whipped out my .50, hosing down their truck and shooting each of our tormentors in the ass with 12 bullets each.
The began crying. I began laughing. My mama began slapping.
All and all it was a good day.
The night sucked though, cuz Pappy to me out to the shed and beat my chubby butt with a switch.
It could've been much worse, had Pappy used a switch that was part of a tree... rather than the standard light switch we had in the barn.
Of course, having to go to Doc Jedediah to have the switch removed from my rump was a little embarrassing, but I got over that last week.
The sad part of it all is that mama tossed my Browning down the well, and the womenfolk no longer drooled, and the menfolk took to beating the crap outta me whenever they saw me.
Made me miss the Browning, until I came up with the Uranium technique!

Now I am 40 years old, about to turn 40 next year, and I am much younger and wiser. I can't afford a Browning Machine Gun anymore, so instead I put the bumper of a 69 Chevy Camaro down my pants to anger men and entice women.

You're quite welcome.
VG
Mr. Scabbythighs

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[This message has been edited by Vampire Gerbil (edited 03-12-2001).]
 
Vampire,
I am in tears!!! those last couple posts were great....
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...keep em coming......

and I,m hoping to meet both Jim and Walt in SF this weekend....got to show Jim finished version of Mad Max.....I will run a test on Jims IQ if we get to meet... c ya

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by trilan_odon:
i just want to know if a 15 year old kid turning 15 march 21 can carry a buck 110 lock back knife concealed or any other concealed folder knife</font>


I espescially love this one...really odon, tell me how old you are as of today....
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and if you want a really nice folder for protecting Mom with, contact Darrel Ralph and request to be put on list for a 7" bladed version of mad max...his "maximum" folder......enjoy california......

 
Hi Vampire
nothing´s new to me about your youth,
i heared all this before,
asked my dog about her youth last week -
she had more horrible experiences to tell.




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