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billym

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I am lucky; almost everyone I work with knows I carry a knife (or two) everyday.
No one has had any issue with my various Benchmades and Spydercos etc. In fact if I buy a knife online I have it shipped to work rather than home.
So a week or so ago I finally received two Case knives I had ordered; A red CV moose and a yellow CV penknife. As I unpacked the moose several people commented that.."that is the nicest knife we have seen you get".
They are right; that moose is real nice. Too big for everyday but the Yellow pen fits right into my coin pocket.
 
And this is in Oakland? When I lived in the bay area, most people I encountered exhibited a knee-jerk fear reaction at the sight of the smallest knife. And don't even get me started with how they felt about my ownership of firearms.

It sounds like you work with a reasonable group.
 
I live just a few cities south of Oakland, and I've never had a problem with people around knives, or guns for that matter.

In fact I took my team, for one of my classes, to the range for a team building exercise. Now, one of them is looking to buy a Cali legal AR-15, and another, legal alien, is looking into getting a mosin negant.

I know quite a few students that carry a knife or multi-tool.

California is just like everywhere else, there are ignorant people wherever you go. But do to the high population of foreigners I do understand why the bay area gets reputation for being anti tools. There are a lot of orientals around here and as far as I know they have really bad laws concerning guns and knives in those countries, so I assume a lot of them just aren't used to seeing a free people exercise there rights, and therefore need to be educated in a nice logical, sensible way.
 
Thanks Stingray!
I am really digging the CV blades and bone handle; a big change from carrying a mini Griptilian for the past 5 years. The problem is I am already eyeing an amber bone CV texas jack and maybe a large cv stockman.
Where are you in the EB?
 
billym said:
Thanks Stingray!
The problem is I am already eyeing an amber bone CV texas jack.
Where are you in the EB?
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Oh man, that's my favorite Case pattern. I bought one for my brother, and have been jealous ever since. I'm hoping to score one for Christmas.

Right at the base of the Dumbarton Bridge in Newark. Newark is surrounded by Fremont if you're not familiar with the area.
 
I know both Newark and Freemont pretty well from an old sales job.
Yes the Texas Jack in CV is a callin'. It doesn't seem they are making many variations other than the amber bone. Glad it is CV.
Iv'e got the yellow CV pen in my pocket i like this one too.
I am in NW Oakland right at the Berkeley/Emeryville border; right near that "bakery" that has been on the news for the murder of an Oakland Tribune editor. It is closed right now.
 
billym said:
I am really digging the CV blades and bone handle; a big change from carrying a mini Griptilian for the past 5 years. The problem is I am already eyeing an amber bone CV texas jack and maybe a large cv stockman.
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Carefull there billy, you may be sucumbing to "the disease".:eek:

CV is very nice stuff. Combining it with amber bone in a Texas jack sounds great!
 
kamagong said:
:eek: We prefer the term Asian.

Not all Asians are afraid of guns and knives. I'm Filipino, and many of us are quite fond of good blades and firearms.
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In fact the Pinoy gentlemen in the Bay area seem to embrace their 2nd amandment rights.
 
kamagong said:
:eek: We prefer the term Asian.

Not all Asians are afraid of guns and knives. I'm Filipino, and many of us are quite fond of good blades and firearms.
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No disrespect intended, but Why? Asian is too broad a term that includes both Russian, Middle eastern, and Oriental(Asian). I never understood why people "prefer" one name over another, barring derogitory names of course. White, Cracker, Redneck, Hillbilly, Gringo, American, North American; call me what you will, it's all the same to me. It's all just a way to discern one general ethnicity from another. What about "Oriental" is less preferable than "Asian"? If you're refered to as Asian, how am I supposed to know from what region of Asia we are talking about?

Also, I understand that not all South East Asians are ignorant when it comes to guns, knives, etc. But I do know that the majority of people from places like Japan, and China usually are. And I see a lot more Chinese and Japanese than I do Philipino. Also, I know that other foreigners contribute to it, but there is probably a bigger South East Asian population in the bay area than any other ethnicity, other than Mexicans, and I never heard of a Mexican flip out about seeing or talking about a gun or knife. And of course there is always the media controled sheeple from EVERY ethnicity including North American.
 
billym said:
I know both Newark and Freemont pretty well from an old sales job.
Yes the Texas Jack in CV is a callin'. It doesn't seem they are making many variations other than the amber bone. Glad it is CV.
Iv'e got the yellow CV pen in my pocket i like this one too.
I am in NW Oakland right at the Berkeley/Emeryville border; right near that "bakery" that has been on the news for the murder of an Oakland Tribune editor. It is closed right now.
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Yeah, I pretty much avoid Oakland like the plague.

Yeah, I wish they would offer CV in a lot of other patterns and handle materials, but as I was told by someone at CASE there offerings are based on sales, so as long as people keep buying SS, we are going to be stuck with a limited CV selection.
 
stingray4540 said:
Yeah, I pretty much avoid Oakland like the plague.

Yeah, I wish they would offer CV in a lot of other patterns and handle materials, but as I was told by someone at CASE there offerings are based on sales, so as long as people keep buying SS, we are going to be stuck with a limited CV selection.
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If I was not paying cheap rent I would not live there but currently I work by the coliseum.

I guess we all need to buy more CV knives.
I keep looking through the Case catalog a wishing they "made 'that' in CV".
 
stingray4540 said:
No disrespect intended, but Why?
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A lot of Asians feel that the term Oriental is too Eurocentric. I don't know if I quite agree with that, but the term Oriental really is a bit dated.

You may want to reconsider your use of the term "foreigner" though. I don't know if you are using it as a synonym for immigrant, but if you are, that term is offensive. People who live in Asia, Africa, or Europe are foreigners. Once they come here legally I think it is proper to refer to them as immigrants, and maybe eventually as Americans.
 
Eurocentric? What's that mean? Nevermind, I'll google it. Still don't get the whole Oriental/Asian thing. So, it's an old term, it's not like it's a derogitory term. It almost literally means East. Other countries call us Westerners, so why is it a problem for us to call you Oriental, or from the East? I just think it's stupid to have to tiptoe around terms. Black, White, Oriental, Middle Eastern, they all just give you a general idea of the region from which one originates. If I was going to meet you somewhere and told you to look for an American weareing a hat, that wouldn't help much, hell that would be just about everyone in a hat. But if I told you I was a tall black guy with a beard wearing a hat, that would probably narrow things down a little better. I guess I'll just never understand the politically correct, I must be racist.

*Point taken about my foreigner use. I kinda use it as a generic term to refer to people who weren't born here or are only the first or second generation born here. But, your right in that I probably use it a lot in the wrong context.

BTW, I'm not a tall black guy with a beard in a hat. I'm an average to tall white guy with a beard wearing a hat.
 
billym:
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Sorry for highjacking your thread. I guess I should just shut up and take my ignorance somewere else.
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stingray4540 said:
billym:
Sorry for highjacking your thread. I guess I should just shut up and take my ignorance somewere else.
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No worries all threads will get hijacked that is the internet for ya.
I am sure you are not ignorant; Amerieca has a lot of cultures to keep up on.
I don't think Kamagong is saying you are ignorant just that the term harkens back to a time of European imperialism and is not the prefered nomenclature.
Ever see the Big Lebowski?

Besides we all agree that Case knives with CV blades rock so who needs to discuss it for too long anyway?
But now I am thinking about giving my brother a Case Peanut of some kind for Christmas. He is not an EDC knife guy but he still has and sometimes carries a Buck Duece I gave him in 1980. He is now going to give it to my nephew so I thought I would replace it. Stainless though as he would never take care of the CV the right way. Now that opens up a lot of handle options I have ignored because they were not offered in CV.
It will be fun to shop for it.:)
 
I think the name thing, especially the politiacly correct name thing can be taken too seriously. I don't know were they came from, but once upn a time they did'nt mean much. America has always been a great melting pot, with people from all walks of life going into the mix, and in the end, we're better for it. Iron is just iron, not good for much till you add some vanadium, or nickle, some carbon, maybe some chrome, and then you have an alloy that is better than the componants.

As the first one in my generation of family to be born in the U.S. I have some feelings on this that may color my feelings on names and labels. I've also had the good fortune to have worked for almost 20 years in an environment that had co-workers that were good old American country boys, people from Viet Nam, Korea, Peru, Mexico, El Salvadore, India, Nigeria and the Ivory Coast. All had a rich culture that I think I learned something from, and maybe am a richer person to have known them. I know that my experiances with other cultures has made an influence in how I do things because I saw a co-worker use a different approach to it. Kind of like thinking outside the box. From my El Salvadorian friend who went fishing with us after work, I learned a small 10-12 inch machete can be used for just about anything. I never saw anyone prosses pan fish so quick than Americo with his little Tramontina. Like bagels on an assembly line. He only had two knives, a small barlow and his Tramontina. I ended up selling off my collection of big fixed blade knives and now just keep a small machete stached places. From my West African friend Jonas I learned how delicious a simple goat stew was.

I've come to the conclussion that we're all pretty much the same. We want to be respected for who we are. We have the same hopes and dreams, we want our children to have a better life than we had, we want a little piece of real eastate to be who we are without getting killed for it.

I think its only important to know the persons name, and then the person. Then after a while nothing else seems to matter. I came to this conclussion several years ago when I was fishing with some friends and ex-coworkers. There I was on a shady bank of the Potomac river watching Wayne (country boy), Jonas(Ivory Coast), Tam(Viet Nam), and Tony(Peru), catching fish, drinking beer, and having a good time. Somehow labels did'nt seem to matter.
 
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