Thick & Thin

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What would you cut (Or poke, pry, scrape etc.) with this (Endura 4 with factory saber grind and 3mm blade stock):



That you would not do with this? (Centofante 3 reground flat to the stone with microbevel 2mm blade stock):

 
The answer is nothing, at least for me. Both are flimsy knives (being folders), but both can cut when you put an edge for them. I'd just use them for cutting.

Now, if you really feel like you need to to something else with them, then it's different. You could pry a little with the Endura, but not with the Centofante, which has, I recall, a tip thinner than half a millimetre. Even the lightest tip work in wood is impossible with the Centofante - it'll just fall apart at the tip. The Endura will do better, but still not well.
 
I would cut reasonable material with them, if I want to pry something I'd use a prybar, and I obviously won't try cut metal or hammer it into another blade :p.
 
It looks as if the Centofante now essentially has a Scandi grind. Why anyone might shy away from using such an edge is beyond me.
 
shecky said:
It looks as if the Centofante now essentially has a Scandi grind. Why anyone might shy away from using such an edge is beyond me.
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Indeed, the micro bevel on that is very minimal. That looks like it'd be a great slicer for general use. Sure, don't split logs with it, but for opening boxes, cutting fabric, etc. it should work fine.
 
shecky said:
It looks as if the Centofante now essentially has a Scandi grind. Why anyone might shy away from using such an edge is beyond me.
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Agreed. But many people do. I've read posts on here from people saying the Centofante from factory is thinner than they are comfortable using. So I want input from those people of what they would NOT do with the above Centofante, so I can go try it out and see how it works.
 
What I would cut with the stock Endura: anything.

What I would cut with the reground Centofante: nothing.

Reason: To state the obvious, it would take too little effort to cut with the regound Centofante. Cutting with thick-edged knives builds upper body strength. :thumbup: Conversely, cutting with thin-edged knives is a major cause of muscle atrophy. :thumbdn:
 
Oh snap! You tell 'em, Lee Haney2! I cut with the spine of a 9/16" thick khukuri for the stem-u-lation!
 
I set my bevels at 90 degrees per side for durability and good exercise. :thumbup:
 
Vivi said:
Agreed. But many people do. I've read posts on here from people saying the Centofante from factory is thinner than they are comfortable using. So I want input from those people of what they would NOT do with the above Centofante, so I can go try it out and see how it works.
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Ah, I see now. Well, I think most of the people who wouldn't feel comfortable with a 2 mm thick hollow ground blade probably do less cutting and more prying with their blades than they care to admit. The Centofante 3 cuts well from the factory - I have a Centofante 3, and while I dislike folders greatly, it's a great cutter. And the extremely fragile tip is very good for some things - like cutting away thin plastic wrapping.
 
KeithAM said:
What I would cut with the stock Endura: anything.

What I would cut with the reground Centofante: nothing.

Reason: To state the obvious, it would take too little effort to cut with the regound Centofante. Cutting with thick-edged knives builds upper body strength. :thumbup: Conversely, cutting with thin-edged knives is a major cause of muscle atrophy. :thumbdn:
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But all that reprofiling balances things out :D

Elen said:
Ah, I see now. Well, I think most of the people who wouldn't feel comfortable with a 2 mm thick hollow ground blade probably do less cutting and more prying with their blades than they care to admit. The Centofante 3 cuts well from the factory - I have a Centofante 3, and while I dislike folders greatly, it's a great cutter. And the extremely fragile tip is very good for some things - like cutting away thin plastic wrapping.
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I love thin tips myself. Goes right into cardboard, food etc. with such little force.

Prying with a knife is fine, but I never understood people that used the tip for that. It's such a poor choice for prying because a knife tip can only be optimized for piercing or strength, otherwise it'll just be mediocre at both if it tries to be in between. If I can't fit the spine of my knife into what I'm prying, I'll just use my SAK's screwdrivers.

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If you're purely testing the knife, I suggest maybe stabbing the knife into heavy sheet metal. You can also stab the tip into wood and try dig a whole in the wood.
 
I don't generally find myself in a situation where I have a piece of sheet metal that needs a hole in it.
 
I hope that day never comes for you. I'm told if I keep my comments quiet more often, it'll stop being that day for me.
 
Vivi said:
I love thin tips myself. Goes right into cardboard, food etc. with such little force.

Prying with a knife is fine, but I never understood people that used the tip for that. It's such a poor choice for prying because a knife tip can only be optimized for piercing or strength, otherwise it'll just be mediocre at both if it tries to be in between. If I can't fit the spine of my knife into what I'm prying, I'll just use my SAK's screwdrivers.
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I rather like them on some types of knives, too - not for those meant for heavy use or woodworking, though.

I can't see why a folder would need a thick tip anyway - it's a folder, it's not like it's ever going to be tough or strong no matter how thick it is. Thin tips are certainly more to my liking than overbuilt tantos or such.

By the way, do you have a tip / spine shot of that reground Centofante? Would be curious to see exactly how thin it is. :thumbup:
 
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