Things Benchmade does that Drive me up a wall...

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This is meant in fun, but there are honestly about 30 different Benchmade knives that would be absolutely perfect if they hadn't just screwed up that one little thing. It's entirely possible that I'm just looking at all the wrong places online (or that I'm too picky), but every time I go down the path of buying a Benchmade, they...


1. Put that ultra-deep swedge all the way across the spine of a perfectly good blade - I hate that. This is largely an aesthetic thing, and I know others love the swedge, but several of their knives would look great to me if they just had a decent spine on it. I love that they have that slender/slim handle and blade-shape, but that swedge ruins it for me.

2. Make a knife in only combo-edge (or make like what - 14 of that knife in plain-edge and 10,000 in combo-edge?). To be fair, this one could just be that I'm late to the game a lot in the Benchmade world and all of the plain-edge versions of a particular model are sold out before I get to them, but I absolutely hate finding that perfect knife and that no one has plain-edge in stock (but everyone on the web has CE) except for places like ebay that have 'em in plain-edge for a good 250% mark-up.

3. Make the knife I want in every lock but the Axis-lock. Not that McHenry and Williams is synonymous with Benchmade, but the Axis Lock is like 75% of the reason I want a Benchmade in the first place (they are kind of famous for it and it's a pretty cool lock). I've found several models that are perfect in every way, but are only available in liner-lock, button-lock, etc. While I'll still buy those models, I really want an Axis model that I like. I've even had an Axis spring take a dump on me and I still want a decent knife with an Axis lock (it's that cool).

4. Make a knife that is ultimately perfect (including no ugly swedge, perfect blade-shape, comes with the Axis lock, and actually available in plain-edge) and hack the scales out of aluminum or G10 with a hatchet. Seriously, Benchmade makes some beautiful scales - so I know they know how to do it right (and yes, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder), but c'mon - some of their scales on the knives that I specifically lust after are hideous (and as uncomfortable as they look). It's like adding Hepatitis C to the Pamela Anderson of knives (or adding Tommy Lee or Kid Rock I guess).

5. Make the absolutely perfect knife and then kill it off 5 years before I find out about it (who do they think they are, General Motors?). This really sucks for me because Benchmade fans don't sell their knives (especially not the older ones). I've heard all sorts of stories about the older knives and how much ass they kick (and I've even handled an older 710, and a few other models that I absolutely loved). It's rumored that they used to actually ship knives with a sharpened edge on them but to be honest, that's probably a little far-fetched based on the last 6 I've purchased. :)

6. Make the 100% cat's meow - just perfect for EZ Bake knife and it's in stock (and it's available in plain-edge with beautiful scales and an Axis lock) and then charge a crapload more for it than their other knives (and no, I'm not talking about Gold-Class knives). It can't honestly cost that much to make prettier G10 scales can it? Sure, in some cases the blade-steel is upgraded as well, but it's rarely that much more expensive than the norm for Benchmade (which is what - 154CM?). That seems like the only difference in a Benchmade that is reasonably priced (yet is hideous to me personally), and one that costs enough that it puts me right at the edge of semi-custom territory. And I know asking for the Axis lock, quality materials, and a good design and then subsequently bitching about price seems kind of silly, but the QC (as well as... for lack of a better word... sharpening?) on the last few Benchmades I've bought don't exactly justify that premium price. And let me say that I don't have a problem with paying $400+ for the right knife (yes, even a production model from one of the big 3), but I'm gun-shy to do so on a Benchmade given the last few examples I've personally owned.

So at the end of the day, I find myself wanting (against all odds) to be a Benchmade fan. If you know of a model without that giant swedge, that has halfway decent G10 (or even aluminum or wood) scales, comes in plain-edge with a regular-looking drop-point, has a poky tip, and is in-stock today - for less than the price of a used small Sebenza)... fire away with that impossible-to-remember numeric model number that Benchmade loves to use (so that I can't remember it and will never be able to find it again).

Again, it's all in fun and I'm seriously looking to be the proud owner of a Benchmade. Of the knives I've sold, I sort of regret selling my small green G10 Bone-Collector, but that's honestly about it. I almost pulled the trigger on an 806 in M390, but couldn't do it after starring at my Blue M390 para-2 for over $100 less - granted, I realize that is a sprint run rarity thing and as soon as the blue Para2s run out and get rare, they will probably be hard to find for a decent price as well.

I sold a 710 (but to be fair, I won't own a Spyderco Military either because I'll just never carry a knife that large) but the 710 I owned and the older one that a friend let me handle were almost completely different knives by QC standards.

I really want a thumb-stud Benchmade (to get that slimmer profile when closed) as opposed to another Spyder-hole model. I like ~3" knives. Hook a brother up with some model numbers for me to google (or pics if you've got them).
 
I have a feeling that this thread is going to cause me to purchase a knife...
 
This is honestly the best looking Benchmade I've seen in a long time:

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If they made it out of 154CM and it had an Axis lock, they could easily charge $120 for it and I'd pay it in a heartbeat (despite my tip-up preference).
 
I traded the line wolf version of that knife a few weeks ago. It was much nicer. S30V, textured wood. I may still have a pic somewhere.
 
Found a couple. Lone wolf longhorn.
 

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Some good points and I had a good chuckle at some of your statements -- so true.

Anymore, I buy full-size Griptilian 551s and mini-Griptilian 556s.

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Size comparison.
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I have several of both sizes. While most are plain blade I have at least a couple of each size with combo blades.

The knives for my .02¢ are quality knives and good workers. I know that there are some that don't like the handles or 154CM steel and that's fine but they are very good knives. If you want fancy, then you can order after-market Wilkins scales in various colors, etc..

I have several other Benchmade knives such as the 720 Pardue with aluminum scales and ATS 34 blade steel but the Griptilians are my favorite Benchmades. I find myself carrying the mini-Griptilians more often that the full-size ones because they hide nicely in my pocket.

And then, I have to keep my other pocket reserved for one of my traditional slipjoints.

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The one thing that really bugs me about Benchmade is that unlike Kershaw they will not ship a part -- say an Axis Lock Omega Spring or a spare scale. Oh no, you have to send the whole dang knife in. I tell ya; it's enough to drive ya up a wall.

Oh, I have two more full-size 551 Griptilians coming via UPS Thursday -- one with black scales and a combo blade and the other with orange scales and a plain blade.

I have several killer Spyderco knives but they're for another thread.
 
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What has made me turn away from benchmade lately (note I do own 10 of them) is that they refuse to have a tip-up liner lock... Iv started buying other brands now...
 
You know, I like the Griptilian. To me - it's essentially like the Kershaw Leek/Blur or the Spyderco Delica/Endura. It's Benchmade's basic staple offering (I've owned a few), and I appreciate the Axis lock and ergos (and to be honest, the blade-shape and many options they're available in). I'll probably own an Orange one in X15 steel soon enough (the last one I sold was an Orange one, but not in the cool salt-water proof steel). If I had any gripe about it, it would be the lack of full liners but that never personally caused me any issues.

Still, I really like the wood, G10, or even Carbon Fiber scales and Benchmade makes so many beautiful sets out there that it's hard to justify not getting that perfect EZ Bake combo :)
 
I used to love BM's stuff, the 943 is still one of my all time favorites, but I've had too many QC issues that I've been dissuaded from many future purchases. And I HATE getting a brand new knife and it's too dull to use.
 
Some good points and I had a good chuckle at some of your statements -- so true.

Anymore, I buy full-size Griptilian 551s and mini-Griptilian 556s.

I like those and that is what I have carried for the past few years, but they put the clip on the wrong end.

I've carried more Benchmades than any other brand- Leopard, mini-AFCK and mini-Grip. I have 3 other Benchmades that I bought and never carried. I look at new ones and occasionally find one that I like, except for one or more details, then I rule it out and go back to my old one. And the prices have gone up considerably. I don't see that their new ones are made any better or more expensively than my Leopard or AFCK, but they cost twice as much. I am happy to carry a single knife for a long time so if they made one that was perfect for me in all aspects I would probably pay whatever it cost, but for now I'm still looking.
 
Benchmade's designs just don't grab me like they used to. I only have three, the Marlowe balisong, a 710 (my birthdate) and a Ritter Griptilian. Out of all of them, I don't see myself ever getting rid of them, and maybe the bali going to my little brother.

I've seen a lot of recent designs, that not only did I not like, but I thought were not well made.


  1. The Subrosa, which would be a great frame lock unassisted folder.

    give us some Griptilians with G10 scales already!




Actually, other than that, I can't think of anything I'd change offhand. Looks like Lone Wolf replaced their Red Class line. I just haven't seen anything that made me take a second glance.
 
What has made me turn away from benchmade lately (note I do own 10 of them) is that they refuse to have a tip-up liner lock... Iv started buying other brands now...

Virtually everything they make is tip-up, is it the lock type that you object to? I like liner locks too but the lock in my mini-grip is probably easier and quicker for me to operate. (It is the tip-up that I don't like. Tip-down is faster and safer for me, but there are separate threads here discussing both types.)
 
EZ Bake (the OP) mentioned the lack of full liners on some knives. I think it's interesting to note that when these screw-together knives first came out, the majority of them had no liners at all. The threads for the screws were simply cut into the G10, Zytel (sp?), micarta, scales but with use, screws started stripping out of the scales. The handles were stiff as all get out but the screws wouldn't hold in them with heavy/hard use. So, the manufactures started using liners so that they could thread the liners for the screws. The additional stiffening of the handles was a side + .

I prefer clip placement for tip-up carry. It puts the bulk of the weight of the knife down inside the pocket which gives a slight edge to the possibilty that the knife will fall into and stay in the pocket should the clip fail.

As to the sharpness of the blade as it comes from the box, I too like a sharp blade but it's only the matter of a couple of minutes to hone the blade to a very sharp edge.
 
As to the sharpness of the blade as it comes from the box, I too like a sharp blade but it's only the matter of a couple of minutes to hone the blade to a very sharp edge.

Certainly, but if a company is saving money by not putting the extra work into sharpening the edge of that particular knife, they should probably charge less for it, and not more.
 
Love the beldam, but dislike the enormous gap between the bottom of the blade and the handle when closed.

710 for me
 
Well the benchmade griptillian is so popular on bf and for the life of me i cant figure out why.

I HATE the axis lock

and the biggest chip on my shoulder currently is the cost of the BM 62, $350 MSRP for D2 and Steel Slab handles?????? Its a flawless knife design but its so ludicrously over priced that i just cant help but to be irritated.

The one thing i give them credit for right now is their HOME RUN production version of the SOCP. I liked it so much i bought two. But even then there is something that drives me crazy. Why couldn't they have put a beefier pocketclip on the sheaths???? Why god WHY???!!!???

Its fine though because I'm at the point where I'm almost exclusivley interested in midtechs and customs now.
 
I would be happy if they just made some exciting knives like they used to.

The Rukus was the last “Wow!” knife they produced IMO. I used to love BM. I probably have owned more BM’s than any other brand. Then, about ten years ago they lost me. I guess maybe it was all those lucrative government war contracts that put the average consumer on the back burner.

What makes me even more puzzled is Spyderco. I just went to the Spyderco factory store in Golden, CO. I had several hundred dollars in my pocket for any knife I desired. Every knife I was interested in either had a lockback, which I don’t care for, or the damn handle was PINNED! If I can’t take a knife apart, I’m not buying it.

Needless to say, I walked out empty handed. (The Butch Vallotton and Gayle Bradley designs were very nice, but I don’t need another large folder. Why don’t they build a small folder like these?)

Both companies can make some very good knives, but neither company gets my business anymore because they don’t offer anything I want.
 
I would be happy if they just made some exciting knives like they used to.

The Rukus was the last “Wow!” knife they produced IMO. I used to love BM. I probably have owned more BM’s than any other brand. Then, about ten years ago they lost me. I guess maybe it was all those lucrative government war contracts that put the average consumer on the back burner.

What makes me even more puzzled is Spyderco. I just went to the Spyderco factory store in Golden, CO. I had several hundred dollars in my pocket for any knife I desired. Every knife I was interested in either had a lockback, which I don’t care for, or the damn handle was PINNED! If I can’t take a knife apart, I’m not buying it.

Needless to say, I walked out empty handed. (The Butch Vallotton and Gayle Bradley designs were very nice, but I don’t need another large folder. Why don’t they build a small folder like these?)

Both companies can make some very good knives, but neither company gets my business anymore because they don’t offer anything I want.

Out of curiosity, which knives did you look at that had pinned handles (I didn't think there were any models left with pinned-construction except for a very few - one being the Caly 3 - which is part of the reason I don't own one anymore to be honest)? I used to hate back-locks but lately, I've bought more back-lock models than anything else (other than possibly compression locks when these next two Sprints come in).

I'm seriously looking at the Benchmade Morpho 32 but I don't know a thing about bali-songs - does anyone actually use one for EDC?
 
I agree whole heartedly with the Axis Lock, I love them and it's the biggest reason I buy and griptilian I can get my hands on for a decent price. I do wish they had more custom scales however the G-10 915S Triage I've been carrying for the past 3 weeks has destroyed my right front pocket. It's so abrasive I'm about to sell it and buy a new full size griptilian.
 
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