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This may not be the appropriate thread for this, but I wanted to speak directly to the smiths - at least those who would listen.

Without mentioning names, I have had varying experiences with commissioning custom blades they are noted for - perhaps a creation based upon the smith’s earlier work.

Regardless of your work, you need to never forget the customer: insuring you’re both on the same page; periodic updates as to the progression of the work; documented change orders (whether resulting in higher or lower costs); a reasonable expected timeline, and notification when the piece actually ships.

Finally, I would consider a COA a requirement for custom work, AND at least a note of thanks for the customers’ patronage. Oddly, after several custom orders from one highly-regarded smith, the simple Thank You never came ( neither by text, email or a msg scrawled on the packing paper. One I’ve dealt with esteems his work so highly, there’s not so much as a “here it is - enjoy”.

I’m 67 and was raised on common courtesy. The smith I dealt with will never see another order or one red cent more from me. There are far too many talented smiths here that are equally capable, and who express common courtesy to their clientele. On the other hand, I've had very good experiences with well-known smiths who took their commission seriously and produced the work requested. They appreciated the opportunity and I valued their product, and took the time to thank them, provide positive feedback, and recommended them to others. A simple and productive feedback loop. In my experience Dalibar was one who stood out among the rest. And I'm certain there are smiths who rival his talent, personality, communication, etc.

End of rant - I received the beautiful piece from Smith X that I originally asked for, but other elements suffered (such as appropriate sheath design - although there was mutual agreement about it's details). Not a deal breaker in and of itself, but poor communication, errors that should've been addressed, and lack of simple courtesy have caused me to look elsewhere in the future. The great thing is that through forums like this one can find an almost perfect match for the work desired.

And of course, there are those customers who are completely unreasonable and will likely never be satisfied. And so we must navigate both ends!

All the best to the smiths who produce phenomenal work under very trying circumstances. Thank you!




Allan
 
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It's weird, right?

I always make sure to have communication and give thanks for the patronage.

But, it goes both ways. I have had customers who did not return any communication except payment. Some do not even let you know the knife arrived and never hear if they like it or not.

The reality is some people see it as a transaction and that is all. They place an order, pay for it, received it transaction completed. They do not see any need for further communication nor do they feel they are being rude.

As long as everyone is paid, item received I do not take it personal if they do not want any complimentary chit chat.
 
It's weird, right?

I always make sure to have communication and give thanks for the patronage.

But, it goes both ways. I have had customers who did not return any communication except payment. Some do not even let you know the knife arrived and never hear if they like it or not.

The reality is some people see it as a transaction and that is all. They place an order, pay for it, received it transaction completed. They do not see any need for further communication nor do they feel they are being rude.

As long as everyone is paid, item received I do not take it personal if they do not want any complimentary chit chat.
I usually don’t concern myself too much if I don’t get a thank you, although I certainly do give one. I do however reach out to the customer to see if they’re satisfied with my work. It just makes me feel better.
 
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It's weird, right?

I always make sure to have communication and give thanks for the patronage.

But, it goes both ways. I have had customers who did not return any communication except payment. Some do not even let you know the knife arrived and never hear if they like it or not.

The reality is some people see it as a transaction and that is all. They place an order, pay for it, received it transaction completed. They do not see any need for further communication nor do they feel they are being rude.

As long as everyone is paid, item received I do not take it personal if they do not want any complimentary chit chat.
Of course! It could be that - purely transactional and nothing more. It might even be a vestigial element from the "old days". But, thankfully, it's not yet universal. A transaction on a human level (i.e. not an Amazon bot or whatever) is beneficial to both parties. As the economist Henry Hazlett said both parties expect to benefit from a mutually agreed upon transaction - otherwise it won't take place. My transactions took place under that precept. My point is that the vendor (one among many) has an interest in pleasing his customer so that future transactions fall to him and not the competition. (I praised the vendor's work and expressed great satisfaction when they agreed to take on the project).When one feels the vendor is doing you a favor, hasn't the courtesy to say "thank you for your business", or makes you feel you are simply crowding his time -- it's time to move on. Good for both parties! I'm not suggesting the vendor get some sort of comeuppance - just lesson learned and move along; as the free market would have it - and the best way in my opinion.

My initial comment was simply a reminder to treat your customers well - if you want referrals and repeat business. Let's face it, the dollars I spend are discretionary, and don't serve to meet a need such as food, housing, etc. They are spent on what amounts to luxury goods. Smiths who are ignorant or ambivalent to that fact are either very successful or are in for a rude awakening. Again, I'm old school about such things, and my time here is limited; in the end all things will work out.
 
Knifemakers, like many artisans, are frequently not very good at business. Common courtesy has not been near as common since the advent of social media and the proliferation of non- face to face contact. Your reminders are well made, and hopefully read and heeded by many of those here who sell the product of their efforts.
 
My point is that the vendor (one among many) has an interest in pleasing his customer so that future transactions fall to him and not the competition.
and to add to the above comments, some makers have no interest in increasing their future business.
But I agree that a bit of polite interaction goes a long way to making the transaction more enjoyable
 
Maybe I'm weird - I believe that the person that is actually doing the 'work', deserves the 'thanks'. But thanking people for their patronage is a good idea. Most people seem to be vain and stroking their egos isn't a bad idea.
 
I think it depends on to what degree it is a unique custom tailored to the individual. I have bought completed pieces before and exchanged only money and a few pleasantries.
I have also commissioned a one-off piece and had some input into the design along the way. This was a great experience and I received numerous WIP photos that not only kept me up to date, but were inspiring to me as a maker myself. In the end we shared the cost of some professional photos. I'd love to do that again if I ever find my wallet too full...
 
I like to send my customers update pictures and videos of the knife build. I also include a build sheet and and info sheet upon completion.

The updates have bit me in the butt though as some people think that just because I profiled a blank and heat treated it that the knife will be done in a few days.
 
I like to send my customers update pictures and videos of the knife build. I also include a build sheet and and info sheet upon completion.

The updates have bit me in the butt though as some people think that just because I profiled a blank and heat treated it that the knife will be done in a few days.
That’s a really nice touch and one I wished my maker would’ve done. No pix, no update, no shipping notification- zip. The knife was spectacular, so at least there’s that. Just wished it had a COA for future use…
 
I like to send my customers update pictures and videos of the knife build. I also include a build sheet and and info sheet upon completion.

The updates have bit me in the butt though as some people think that just because I profiled a blank and heat treated it that the knife will be done in a few days.

You don't have a 'Knifemakers' membership. How does anyone know that you make knives for people?
 
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