Thinner blade on new SAK's??????

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pluto

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I just bought a new Vic Spartan to keep in the car as a backup-SAK and when checking the large blade I saw that it is actually thinner than the one on my old Spartan :eek: :eek:

I believe this is a "new" Vic being identified by not having a crossbow (the stamp looking like an umbrella) stamped on the tang of the large blade as the "old" ones had. OK, I actually have not checked if the blade is thinner but the base of the blade/tang is absolutely thinner!! Anyone have noticed this also?? And most important of all, does this mean that Vic is now selling SAKs that are of a lower quality than they used to be????? :eek:

Also, according to SOSAK FAQ the "umbrella" = crossbow is a very exclusive quality mark, have they taken it away because they do not any longer meet the highest quality standard???
 
I've also noticed the deletion of the "crossbow" from the newer blades.
And I've noticed that instead of the word "Switzerland", it has "Swiss made" on the blade.

It makes me wonder if these blades are being made in China or Taiwan, or if the handles are being made in China or Taiwan.
I only wonder this because of some recent discussions on a watch forum about swiss made watches...

Apparently, according to Swiss law, a watch can be labled "Swiss made" even if only about 60% of the watch is actually made in Switzerland.

Does anyone else know more about this?
 
I believe the 84mm main blades have gotten thinner, but I cannot pinpoint when this took place. From my small collection, it seems to have happened sometime in the last 10 years.

I haven't missed the thickness at all, however. In fact, I kind of prefer the Wenger style blade, which is even thinner than the thin Vic.
 
pluto said:
I just bought a new Vic Spartan to keep in the car as a backup-SAK and when checking the large blade I saw that it is actually thinner than the one on my old Spartan :eek: :eek:

I believe this is a "new" Vic being identified by not having a crossbow (the stamp looking like an umbrella) stamped on the tang of the large blade as the "old" ones had. OK, I actually have not checked if the blade is thinner but the base of the blade/tang is absolutely thinner!! Anyone have noticed this also?? And most important of all, does this mean that Vic is now selling SAKs that are of a lower quality than they used to be????? :eek:

Also, according to SOSAK FAQ the "umbrella" = crossbow is a very exclusive quality mark, have they taken it away because they do not any longer meet the highest quality standard???
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Yes the blades are a bit thinner, but there is no difference in quality, and they are still being made in Switzerland. In this ever competivily buisness world they had to cut the cost somehow, and a little thinner steel was it. If anything, it will make a better slicer. I have a failry new cadet, and a waiter, that has the thinner blade, and I have not noticed any frailness at all. In fact when I saw this question raised over on the sosak forums, I went about testing my new sak's and they were up to par.

I don't think you will ever see a China made Victorinox. The reason they bought Wenger was to keep it in Switzerland, and not let it get bought and exist in name only as a Chinese knife like the new Schrade's.

I would have zero hesitation to buy a new sak.!:thumbup:
 
jackknife said:
Yes the blades are a bit thinner, but there is no difference in quality, and they are still being made in Switzerland. In this ever competivily buisness world they had to cut the cost somehow, and a little thinner steel was it. If anything, it will make a better slicer. I have a failry new cadet, and a waiter, that has the thinner blade, and I have not noticed any frailness at all. In fact when I saw this question raised over on the sosak forums, I went about testing my new sak's and they were up to par.

I don't think you will ever see a China made Victorinox. The reason they bought Wenger was to keep it in Switzerland, and not let it get bought and exist in name only as a Chinese knife like the new Schrade's.

I would have zero hesitation to buy a new sak.!:thumbup:
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SWITZERLAND :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

china :thumbdn: :barf: :barf: :barf:
 
I have a hiker with the swiss made stamp,and it has held up as good or better than my older models,I have not only used but abused this knife,I have cut ton's of fuzz sticks and piles of poles and shrubbs for bush shelter etc,I had the saw blade pinch while rushing to cut some poles for a lean to in the rain,the blade flexed,to the point of a half circle,but didn't take a set or break.It's been one of my most used woods knives for a year or so and aside for some scratches and dings it's still in great shape.

The only problem I have ever had with Vics is that after being used and banged around the handles get a little loose,but so far the hiker hasn't hade this problem.
 
I don't think you will ever see a China made Victorinox. The reason they bought Wenger was to keep it in Switzerland, and not let it get bought and exist in name only as a Chinese knife like the new Schrade's.
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Things are not so clear cut...

As I said before, Swiss watches can legally say "Swiss made" and yet only actually be about 60% Swiss.

Truthfully, very few companies produce every ingredient and every part in a final product.

So I wonder who supplies Victorinox with its parts...

I wounder if the plastic scales are made in Switzerland?
What about the small key ring?
The toothpick?
The tweezers?
The blades?
The boxes?
The brass pins?
The aluminum siders and spacers?
The steel backsprings?
The magnifiers?
The corkscrew mini-screwdriver?

I'm not bashing Victorinox by any means...I love their knives.
But it would not surprise me if Victorinox bough some of its parts, like the little plastic toothpicks, in bulk from a company in Taiwan or China.
 
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