Thinning a HH haft or leave as-is?

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I realize that the thinner the handle/haft the weaker it is. That said, I like the thinner profile of an axe and hatchet I have and the HH haft comes much thicker. Should I deal with and get used to the thicker haft knowing it will be much less prone to breaking, or try to take it to a belt sander and thin between the shoulder and the belly? How do you make sure the handle stays symmetrical so that I don't introduce undue grain runout from uneven thinning?

Also: As this will be my first hang... My gut tells me I may be re-hanging this axe sometime in the near future. Should I leave it (don't bite off more than I can chew) and worry about keeping the axe on the handle for the first hang and once I have that down then worry about handle profiles that I like?
 
Maybe fit the head first then see how it feels. You can then decide if you want to alter it.

I rarely leave a handle in it's original condition but that's just me.
 
I tend to use hardwood canoe paddles as an analogy. Sure a thick 'club' version is more difficult to break but the benefits of using a lively and flexible version, that is infinitely more enjoyable and comfortable, is entirely lost.
If you're only an occasional chopper or lend it out as a splitter to energetic novices then a 'thick stick' is perfectly suitable. The hardest part of thinning a shaft is deciding how much to take off! Begged, borrowed, or finding of an older and nicely sculpted haft that is comfortable in the hand, to use as a shaping and dimensional template, is the easiest way to go.

Below is a Canadian example of a dainty original haft (probably from the 1930s) and a brand new (not HH mind you) production handle. You can readily (despite the amount of elbow grease involved) recreate the old handle within the excess amount of wood that is present. Right down to the classic fawn's foot.

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Get a decent spokeshave that has been freshly sharpened to thin down your handle, its impossible to mess it up using a spokeshave and its much more enjoyable and produce almost no dust and a better finish than belt sander.
 
From some directions on thinning handles, written by Peter Vido, is the suggestion to mark a centerline down the length of the handle, then measure and mark half the desired width on either side of the centerline, to make guidelines for how much to thin.

Peter Vido wrote the following instructions for thinning existing axe handles.
The full post is at the Axe Connected blog:
http://axeconnected.blogspot.com/2011/03/thinning-handles.html

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I should think that for most (if not all) ax users, thinning a piece of wood would be a straightforward task. The majority of the handles I’ve thinned were done with a hatchet, and without drawing any guiding lines beforehand. But for the benefit of some beginners we will describe it step by step – hence the notes on the “proper procedure” below.

As the first step, mark a line down the center of the whole handle on the narrow sides, both front and back. Then mark 2 lines parallel to it, again front and back. Each one of these should be half as far away from the center line as the intended thickness of the refined handle. (The woodworking beginners might give themselves a millimeter or two of grace and draw the line that much further away from the center.) The line should taper outwards 2-3” short of the end; this portion will taper gradually from knob (max thickness) to the average thickness of the whole to form the actual grip and ought to receive particular attention later in the process.

In the examples shown we opted for 20mm overall thickness (10mm to each side). That is still plenty heavy and will be further refined (thinned, though in portions of the handle only).

To remove the now clearly defined superfluous wood you have several options:

Using only a rasp is the most primitive, costly and time-consuming method, but it works and requires the least skill. (To rasp much off a hickory handle you had better have a good rasp; such rasps are not cheap and hickory wood dulls edges fast... but anyone can operate a rasp.)

The next most exact and “safe” method is to clamp the handle horizontally in a vice, saw down to the line at 1-2” intervals and then remove the wood with a chisel.

A faster option is a hatchet (or any other ax you can be reasonably accurate with) – or if you are a khukuri knife user this can be the tool of choice.

I advise against the use of drawknives as a sole ax handle thinning tool (without the wood being first scored). The chance of catching a piece of wood and prying it away from the intended depth is too great – unless you’d be lucky enough to work on a handle with “perfect” grain, know how to recognize it before you start, and have enough experience using the drawknife for exacting work.

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The rough wood removal is literally a 5 minute job. Simply score down to the lines. It is easier to concentrate on one line at a time, score every 2” or so and then place another sequence of score marks between the former ones, this time focusing on the other line. (Both of these lines, of course, represent one actual working side of the handle.)

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Then remove the wood between score marks -- always from the opposite direction than the one they were placed from. (I do break this rule occasionally, but, being smart, you shouldn’t...)

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In these photos the use of khukuri knives -- the multipurpose tools of the Nepalese culture -- is shown. They work very well; in addition, these knives can serve the role of a drawknife, and for many tasks other than handle thinning (peeling bark, shaping/smoothing small rails, tipi poles, etc.)

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A spokeshave is one option for smoothing after the hewing step. I usually use a rasp, followed by a 12” bastard file. When completely shaped the handle can be further finished with sandpaper, emery cloth or a small piece of broken glass/windowpane.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/827527-Thinning-Handles-%28by-Peter-Vido%29
 
Some background on how today's axe handles have "devolved" to be much thicker than the slim and limber handles that old-timers preferred:

...The photo below is meant to demonstrate the devolution. It is, in fact, a brief documentation of history, because what you see here are commercially-produced ax handles, purchased in Canada between 1975 and 2011. All of them are hickory...

Here (from left to right) are their respective dimensions and weights of the heads they came with:
1. (1975) – 18x32mm, 31 inch long, head 3 ½ lb (my very first ax)
2. (1995) – 23x37mm, 27 inch long, head 2 ¾ lb
3. (2010) – 26x 39mm, 26 inch long, head 2 lb
4. (2011) – 29x40mm, 27 inch long, head 2 ½ lb

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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/820720-Introduction-and-quot-The-Devolution-of-Ax-Handles-quot
 
I was going to get the calipers out but that photo says it all.

If your aim is good and you know how to avoid handle damage then thinning down is definitely recommended. Go by the old commercial standards, someone can post them if you don't have The Ax Book, and you'll still have some extra if you're in the learning phase.

Just take your time with the first one, it's not easy but you'll learn a lot.
 
Some background on how today's axe handles have "devolved" to be much thicker than the slim and limber handles that old-timers preferred:

Pictures are worth a thousand words and in this particular case; a couple of thousand more. Thank you Steve.
 
Measured anyway because I was curious about the numbers, 28 by 42. So similar to what Peter Vido had.

This is 1.102" by 1.654". And compared to the old commercial straight heavy handles and light: .81" by 1.41" and .75" by 1.28".

Curved handles generally have to be a bit thicker, but if your handle is anything like the examples here then you have nearly a quarter of an inch in both thickness and width to play with.
 
Another good option is order an octagon handle from House.
They are a bit thinner than the standard handle. Here's a pair to show the difference.
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here's a House double bit that I thinned. Started with a rasp to hog off wood fast. Then a cabinet scraper and finished up with sandpaper. I'm not done with the stain yet. Will finish it up Saturday and hang.
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Another good option is order an octagon handle from House.
They are a bit thinner than the standard handle. Here's a pair to show the difference.
KlazG5Ll.jpg

KdRsWLWl.jpg


here's a House double bit that I thinned. Started with a rasp to hog off wood fast. Then a cabinet scraper and finished up with sandpaper. I'm not done with the stain yet. Will finish it up Saturday and hang.
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R70f6Wil.jpg

That handle looks Plumb good!:)
 
Haha, wish I could say I had a Plumb to hang on it. This old Sager will look good on it.
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Never thought about staining the handle... Is that for aesthetics or to protect the wood or a bit of both? This hanging thing is a much longer process than I had anticipated.

What about hatchet handles? Same as axe handles (with regards to thinning and staining)?
 
Never thought about staining the handle... Is that for aesthetics or to protect the wood or a bit of both? This hanging thing is a much longer process than I had anticipated.

What about hatchet handles? Same as axe handles (with regards to thinning and staining)?

A bit of both. I will finish with a coat or two of boiled linseed oil. If you dont want to stain it you at least need to put several coats of BLO on to protect the wood. It's one of the popular ways to preserve a handle but certainly not the only way. Same for hatchet handles, thin them to your liking.
If you haven't already Checked out this link it's full of good info and the author is on this forum. If memory serves me, Old Axeman is his screen name.
http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/pdfpubs/pdf99232823/pdf99232823Pdpi300.pdf
 
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