This old Gillette

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As many of you know, I switched to DE from Gillette Sensor (which I had used for about 20 years) just about a year ago. I was driven to this largely by the skyrocketting cost of Sensor blades, the declining quality of Sensor blades, and the vanishing availability of Sensor blades. Gillette assured me that they have not discontinued Sensor, and I do still see the blades in the stores from time to time. But, they're not pushing it any more. Without any advertising and without new razor handles being sold, it's clearly a sunset product and Gillette clearly isn't investing anything new in it nor paying much attention to it. They're not requiring stores to carry the blades any more and they're not giving the stores promotional prices either, so those few stores who still choose to give Sensor a few inches of shelf space have to charge full price for those blades since they don't move as rapidly.

Anyway, as a Christmas gift to myself last Christmas, I bought myself a Merkur Futur and matching brush. I've spent the last year using the Futur and focusing on experimenting with different blades. I've evaluated ten different blade types in the last year and really feel good about those results.

Just a couple of weeks ago, my friend Steve Garsson sent me a 60's-vintage Gillette to try out. It's arrival, a year after my switch to DE, couldn't have been more perfect. With my blade evaluations in satisfactory condition, I have been delighted to take this opportunity to now experiment in a new dimension.

I realize that since I have only ever used the one razor, the Futur, my DE shaving experience is quite limited. I was excited to broaden my experience.

For example, may people complain that the Futur is too heavy. But, since it's the only DE I've ever used, it is, as far as I know, just the right weight for a DE razor. Some say that the Futur's head is too big. But, since it's the only DE I've ever used, it is, as far as I know, the perfect size for a DE razor.

Anyway, I was very happy to get this Gillette because I have read so many good things about them. So many guys on the various forums seem to sing their praises.

I decided to start out on this Gillette with a Derby blade since my evaluations have concluded that Derby is an excellent blade and highly consistent. Being an scientist and engineer, I wanted to use a consistent blade type to elliminate one more variable from my experiments.

My first shave with the Gillette was a good experience and the result was about 70% as good as I've become accustomed to from my Futur (and 70% of that is a very nice shave, indeed). I was pleased to get to 70% on the first try. Over the next few shaves, I honed (pun intended) my technique with the little Gillette and was quite pleased with myself to see my shaves improve by leaps and bounds each time. But, I did plateau at about 85%.

That's good, but not acceptable to me. There are a lot of guys on the various forums who report the penultimate shave* using these older Gillettes and Derby blades. I should be able to at least get to 100% of the futur. So, I thought about it for a bit and realized that, yes, these guys do report awesome shaves with these older Gillettes.... but they also report using three- and even four-pass regimes. I was only using a two-pass method.

I tried three-passes with the Futur for about a week some time ago, but I found that the third pass added only one or two percent to the shave. my two-pass approach was getting me 98-99% of the shave I obtained with the three-pass method, so the third pass just wasn't worth it. The Futur does 99% of what it can do with just two passes. I do one pass north-to-south, mostly with-the-grain, and then a second pass south-to-north, mostly against-the-grain, and that's it; that's all I need with my Futur. A third pass with the Futur feels ineffective too, just basically pushing lather around.

But, when I tried adding a third pass with the Gillette, the shave quality immediately came up to 100% of Futur. I've tried adding a second south-to-north and also adding an ear-to-nose (mostly across-the-grain) pass. The second S2N was a big improvement, but the ear-to-nose, once I got it figured out, was even better.

The third pass only takes about two minutes. The brush is already loaded and it just takes a few whips to bring up a third lather. The shaving itself goes quick since the cutting is quite fine.

And, with that third pass, this Gillette is a great shaver indeed.

I have heard some say that the Futur is just to agressive, that it irritates them or causes razor burn. Obviously, if it can do in two passes what this Gillette needs three to accomplish, it is more agressive. But, for some people, three milder passes may be a more comfortable and effective way to reach a great shave than two more agressive passes.

My plan now is to go back to the Futur for a week or so since this is an A/B comparison plan. Then, I'll try the Gillette with some Feather blades.




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* The ultimate shave, of course, comes only in heaven
 

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Glad you enjoy the razor.

I found "7" on the Slim Adjustable I sent you to be a "medium" shave.

I found "7" on the Black Beauty I sent you to pretty much tear my face up with a Feather, so there IS really quite some difference with the adjustable razors, which for me, is part of the fun in discovery, as it is for you.

Here's to BBS shaves with no nicks!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
After some experimentation, I dialed this one in at 6 with Derby blades. I'll heed your warning and dial down a bit before trying with Feathers.
 
Here are a few pictures of the second Gillette which Steve sent me. I've only shaved a week or so with this one, but, so far, I find it to be a great shaver too. Much like the first, it's three passes to an wonderful shave, but they are very easy passes to make

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These pictures are a bit better. I'm slowly learning to photograph razors now. I'd welcome comments on the pictures, BTW. This is an interesting new subject for me.
 

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Great pics:thumbup: I hope to have my new DE razors in hand by the weekend. I've everything to get started on the way!
 
WOW you guys rreally dial them up high. I have 2 of the old Gillettes a fat handle and a slim handle. I like the Slimmer one the best and use it set at 3. I use Derbies and do 2 against the grain, south to north passes, with a 3rd pass just to get a few tricky spots. I'm real interested in your take on the Gillette vs Merkur as I'm trying to resist buying a Merkur. Your Merkur is ajustable also correct? If so what setting do you use on it?
 
Where are the Feather brand razors and blades made, and are they good razors and blades for the money? I can't afford to sell another kidney for Gillette Fusion blades, and even the Mach III blades have gotten too expensive.
Thanks.
 
Where are the Feather brand razors and blades made, and are they good razors and blades for the money? I can't afford to sell another kidney for Gillette Fusion blades, and even the Mach III blades have gotten too expensive.
Thanks.

OR, which DE razor do you recommend for a new DE user? Do you recommend a new one or a vintage model?
 
Feather blades are made in Japan.

Feather razors have a reputation (I've never used one) for being a bit agressive.
 
The old Gillette ajustable are nice and the thing I really like about them is the easy ajustment ring it clicks in each setting. I'm not sure how tricky if at all the new ajustables are. I have a fixed head DE and an old ajustable and like the ajustable more. Be careful DE shaving can become adictive. :)
 
Considering the price difference between Fusion cartridges and DE blades, I imagine the DE IS quite addictive.
Over $700.00 a year for cartridges. Nah, I think I'll pass. How are the Merkur razors? A couple of them have caught my eye.

The skin on my face is as soft as a baby's bum, plus I'm blond and don't have a thick beard. I don't think I need an aggressive razor. The old Bic disposables made my face feel like I'd shaved with a chainsaw.
 
Then for sure get an ajustable you can dial them down to be very easy shavers. I am truthfully amazed with my old Gillette it is at least 40 or more years old and works perfectly. If I had held up half as well as this razor I'd be a happy man. I don't have a Merkur and cann't comment on them.
 
It saddens me, how impossible it is to find safety razors locally. When you ask about one, people look at you like you're crazy. One clerk asked my why I'd want to go back to one of "those".
"Because it's better, and Fusion cartridges are too expensive, and Mach III cartridges are poor quality now."
"Is it easier?"
"No, it's just better."
"How?"
"Closer shave."
"OH. I remember my dad always shaved with an old Gillette and refused to switch."
"Hello. Maybe he had a good reason for that."

BTW, Mach III cut me shaving yesterday and gave me a bunch of little bloody spots today. It also left me feeling like I had shaved with a chainsaw.
Mach III is on it's way out, just as soon as I can get a good DE.
 
I have a silver handled Gillette Adjustable AND a later black handled one AND an old Gillette fat handled Tech coming in. From what I've read, these should be good ones for me to start out with.
I could really go for collecting these old DE razors. Especially the old Gillettes. Next, I need to get a Super Speed, as they seem to have quite a following.

Going on 20 year old memories of mine, DE shaving just feels more manly and less girly than shaving with disposables or cartridge razors. Then there's the fact that these old DE razors are a precision instrument of which you can be proud, even though they were mass produced. Cartridge razors are just a cheap handle onto which a disposable hunk of junk attaches, in comparison.
 
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