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Kevin the grey

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I apologise in advance for what may seem like sacrilege to some empassioned by their Kukuuris . Has anyone ever put a single beveled edge on one ? I realise the design does not loan itself to this and that the single bevel may defeat one of the advantages a Kukuuri has . I am interested to know if anyone has as I may have an apllication where a single bevel is an advantage .
 
And where would that be? :confused:

A single beveled edge would be too weak for a chopper of any kind unless you made it a very obtuse angle and that would defeat the purpose.:rolleyes:
 
An axe or hatchet with a single bevel is sometimes used to shape an archery bow from a stave of wood . The wood is held vertically with one hand near the top and the bottom is on the ground at a slight angle in front of you . The axe is used in short chopping motions to remove wood down to near completion and then the stave is secured horizontally on the ground or other flat surface and the blade is used with two hands somewhat like a cabinet scraper . I am learning a more refined technique involving work benches , files , cabinet scrapers and draw knives . I have just started at this . My teacher knows I live in a small place with little room for a horizontal stave let alone myself ! L:O:L
He also wants me to learn as many techniques that I can .
 
Kevin I agree that learning as many techniques as you can is a great idea but such a hatchet or khukuri is very specialized and therfore not much good for anything else.
I used a 12" AK to shape out a handle for an Eagle wing fan for a sister of mine to give to her mate. It worked fine. I plan on using the same knife to partially tiller an oak bow for my grandson after I recover from my back surgery, if I do in a positive manner.
 
I have a hatchet that loans itself to either a single or double bevel . I think it is a hatchet used for splitting shingles . There is no Convex to the blade at all it just tapers at an angle with no radius to it at all .

Aside from the fact that I could not afford a specialised Kukuuri for just bow or similar work I did not think the radiussed design of the blade would loan itself to it . I wanted to find out if it were possible or feasible to do it . As I mentioned I am near the beginning of shaping bows and my teacher thought it might be a good alternative for me . I have a great deal of patience and told him if I make just one working bow in my life i would be satisfied . Of course I have goals other than my own satisfaction which ask for a few more bows to be built than that .

B.T.W. My bowyer friend has one self bow that has been shot 300,000 times and still going strong .
Kevin
 
I have used a khukuri as a draw knife....to make a bow, actually. I didn't have any problem using the convex edge I gave it. That said, I can see how a chisel edge would help matters. But I would put the chisel edge in the recurve part, and not the sweet spot.

But then it would start looking like that crazy Tracker knife.....:(
 
Daniel Koster said:
I have used a khukuri as a draw knife....to make a bow, actually. I didn't have any problem using the convex edge I gave it. That said, I can see how a chisel edge would help matters. But I would put the chisel edge in the recurve part, and not the sweet spot.

But then it would start looking like that crazy Tracker knife.....:(
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Oh! Oh! Special project! Hi Khukuri with a saw on top edge!! That rocks! Great idea Dan!!!!!


( :D )

(I too have an old single-bevel hand axe. In fact, the entire blade is at a tangent to the pole, not centered. It's for wood-working -- sort of an impact chisel. Doesn't work as a general-purpose hand axe for snot.)
 
you might laugh, but I did make a design for a Khukuri-Tracker. But I didn't like it and the thought of doing the multi-grinds gave me a headache. Plus, it would end up costing around $500-600 to make it....knocking it out of the user category...:(
 
Until the movie came arround and such things acquured a monster "Cool!" factor, the only production knife I can recall that had sorta the same idea was the Puma White Hunter. The Tracker is a brutalized White Hunter.

With all the great, light, cheap folding prunning saws around, I just never "got" the saw back on a wilderness knife. Put all your "eggs" in one, compromise "basket" that does nothing as well as a dedicated knife, saw, axe.

At the next MWKK, we should put a Tracker or WSK against a 12" AK or Pen and see what happens. :D
 
Daniel Koster said:
you might laugh, but I did make a design for a Khukuri-Tracker. But I didn't like it and the thought of doing the multi-grinds gave me a headache. Plus, it would end up costing around $500-600 to make it....knocking it out of the user category...:(
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Why??? That is what some of the 'Tracker' style knives cost anyway!
Or do you actually mean COST, as in the selling price would be MUCH higher???
 
Thomas Linton said:
Until the movie came arround and such things acquured a monster "Cool!" factor, the only production knife I can recall that had sorta the same idea was the Puma White Hunter. The Tracker is a brutalized White Hunter.

With all the great, light, cheap folding prunning saws around, I just never "got" the saw back on a wilderness knife. Put all your "eggs" in one, compromise "basket" that does nothing as well as a dedicated knife, saw, axe.

At the next MWKK, we should put a Tracker or WSK against a 12" AK or Pen and see what happens. :D
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The 'SAW' is not really a saw at all, it is for cutting GROVES in wood, for making snare triggers, etc...
The TOPS version is NOT the best example of a 'Tracker' knife anyway... It is a version modified for mass production... It is NOT very close to the one designed for the movie, by someone that knew what he was doing...
 
Thats O:kay guys have fun with your saw blades . I have my answer anyway . Maybe you could think more in the future . If you interupt a thread it sometimes dies . Just like I,m doing now ! ! L:O:L
 
I recently had an occasion to use an old spoke shave to do some quick wood trimming work. It was originally ground convex on the top side and flat (actually with a bit of a hollow) on the bottom. It worked great - but I bet if I worked it up it would really shave wood like crazy.
Is this what this thread was originally about? If not, excuse me.

It seems that there is a lot of thread hijacking going on now. Folks taking a thread into their area of special interest, regardless of the thread's original subject. I think it's a narcism thing rather than a malicious thing, so I'm not angry or anything... There's a bumper sticker for that. :D
 
I have a couple of bolos from the island of Panay in the Visayas region of the Philippines. They are the two knob handled knives in the center. They are flat on the left side of the blade, and convex ground single bevel on the right side. They are sometimes made opposite for a left handed user. I've never chopped with them, as they are old, but that's what they are made for. They "feel" like they would work great.

Would I do that to a khukuri that's already heat treated? No. You would grind away too much of the hardened area. Don't know how the assymetrical edge would work on a khuk. Don't think I'd like it, but who knows?

Steve

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love that one on the bottom, Steve. very nice blade.
 
I really like the one with two rivets ( or holes?) at the butt of the handle....Great lines, and probably the most practical for me.
 
Me Likeum all!:thumbup: :D :cool: No one can say that Steve doesn't have a cool collection.;) :D

Edit:
Speaking of collections...
I heard on one of the home show programs that if you had at least three of anything you had a collection.
That means I have a collection of rods and reels, antique reels, ndn caps, ndn prints framed and not framed, khukuris, Marble's knives, Cold Steel knives, Amberina glassware, ndn statuary, Avon beer steins, and probably a few more things I'm not thinking of right now.:o
It's a dayumed shame for anyone to have as many collections as I do.:rolleyes: ;) :cool:
And especially in as small of a house that we live in.:foot:
 
email sent on Steve's no. 4.

3 ain't half bad either...

Nice & thanks for sharing, Steve.


Ad Astra
 
Steve has what we call the "Envy" collection. At least of the stuff he posts turns me green (and not pukey green...:foot: )
 
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