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Thoughts on the Delica vs. the Mini-Griptilian

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I recently got a Benchmade Mini-Griptilian from another forumite after not having owned, carried or used one for around six years. The first one I carried had a thumbstud and a partially serrated drop point 440C blade. My initial thoughts were that though it opened easily the size of the knife and the thumbstud put my thumb uncomfortably close to the serrated edge of the blade. I carried it for a while, used it for some light cutting, and eventually sold or traded it off. I have not had one since.

The one I recently purchased has a black partially serrated "modified sheepsfoot" blade of 154CM and opens via the Spyderco round opening hole. I feel far more comfortable opening this knife than I did the one with the thumb stud. The Spyderco hole gives a better purchase for my thumb and seems to keep it away from the cutting edge.

The Spyderco Delica is one of the knives I have had in several of its incarnations from the original fully serrated integral clip model in AUS-8 to the stainless Delica 4 in VG-10 and almost every style in between.

Both the Delica and the Mini-Grip are scaled down versions of their respective companies' flagship folders, the Endura from Spyderco and the Griptilian from Benchmade and both knives have their loyal followings. They are both economical folding knives for people who use their knives for day to day cutting chores. Both have FRN handle scales, the Delica 4 and Mini-Grip have steel liners and both have secure locks, the Delica with the back lock and the Mini-Grip with the Axis lock. Both knives have approximately a 2.9 inch blade give or take .01 or .02 of an inch.

The prices are about the same with the Mini-Grip retailing for $56.25 on NewGraham and the Delica 4 retailing for $56.19.

Personally I would select the Delica before the Mini-Griptilian. I find the Delica's handle more ergonomical and I have small hands. The Mini-Grip does not feel secure and does not feel like it fills my hand. While the blades of both are within a fraction of an inch of each other, to me the Delica feels like it has a much more functional, useable blade, the blade of a much larger knife. I prefer the backlock in a folding knife over an axis lock, as I work around water and the omega spring of the Axis lock seems like it would be prone to corrosion and breakage far too easily. Otherwise both locks are extremely secure for what cutting one would use a small folding knife for.

For the steel junkies, the Delica is available in VG-10 steel while the Mini-Griptilian comes in 154CM. I personally would choose the VG-10 over the 154CM for the higher corrosion resistance it offers.

I do not much mind country of origin, if it is made in China, Japan, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Spain or the United states does not matter as long as it is a well made knife coming from a company with an excellent reputation, but for those that prefer USA made knives, the Mini-Griptilian is made in the United States and the Delica in Seki, Japan.

Personally I would go with the Delica for a medium sized EDC but I don't think that you can "go wrong" with either knife. They are both priced well and made with premium, affordable materials, both have excellent warranties from reputable companies and both are made to be used.

Pete
 
Delica vs Mini GRip. I think that the Mini Grip has it over the Delica due to the blade grind. The Delica blade with its sabre grind winds up beings just a bit too thick at the edge. The BM 555 (oval hole sabre grind) and the 556 just cut much better that the Delica, thiner at the edge. On a plus side for the Delica the handle is about 1/4 in. longer and the Delica is flater in the pocket. Both have good solid locks. As far as the steel 154CM vs VG10 its about even. Both good knives but I do like the Mini Grip over the Delica. BM runs the blade grind higher than the Delica. The above review is a good honet review Pete 1977.
 
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I have the 555 and the Delica 4 and like the Delica much better. As Whitedog said the mini grip may have an advantage in cutting some things due to the thinner blade grind, but that same thin grind makes it weaker for other uses. The Delica feels like a much more robust, sturdy knife and the ergonomics of the Delica are far superior imo.

One of the omega/axis springs on my mini grip did break the first month I had the knife. I sent it to BM and they replaced it, but I like the lock back more as it seems less likely to break.

I like playing with the axis lock but I haven't carried the mini grip for some time. When I walk out the door it is usually the Delica, or one of its siblings like the Caly 3, Salt 1, or Native, that I slip into my pocket.
 
To me, it comes down to the lock. Axis trumps lockback.

Not too enthused about the hole opening assistance means, either.
 
If I had to choose I honestly don't think I could pick a favorite between the two, both have their strengths and weaknesses, now if I could get a mix of the two, blade and lock of the 555 Mini Grip with the handle of a Delica 4, that would be almost perfect. :cool:

Nice review Pete :thumbup:
 
I prefer the lockback to the axis lock. Also, like the flat saber grind as pointed out earlier as it is more robust. I hate broken tips on blades.

Vinny
 
Thank you for the review. I appreciate the objectivity you provided. I am a grip fan-full size, but will most likely buy a military or (get one for Christmas). Benchmade and Spyderco both make very good quality users. I am not trying to drift off topic, just got big hands, and believe your info for these smaller knives, can also be applied to the biggers. I love reading these comparisons, when done in an objective fashion, as I believe you did quite well.
 
Until the omega spring breaks, and you have to ship the knife, or gerry rig a new one.


I own and use a few axis-locks knives, some which have heen exposed to some rather nasty enviroments, and have yet to have a spring break.

But that does touch on an issue I have with Benchmade, i.e. the lack of sending out simple replacement parts without hassle. It would be of little work for Benchmade to allow customers to buy extra springs and bolts for the knives Benchmade offers. It would also cut down a bit on the scammers I see as a plague on companies knife companies (Benchmade, Spyderco, CRK, and Kershaw being but examples).
 
Delica vs Mini GRip. I think that the Mini Grip has it over the Delica due to the blade grind. The Delica blade with its sabre grind winds up beings just a bit too thick at the edge. The BM 555 (oval hole sabre grind) and the 556 just cut much better that the Delica, thiner at the edge. On a plus side for the Delica the handle is about 1/4 in. longer and the Delica is flater in the pocket. Both have good solid locks. As far as the steel 154CM vs VG10 its about even. Both good knives but I do like the Mini Grip over the Delica. BM runs the blade grind higher than the Delica. The above review is a good honet review Pete 1977.

The Mini-Grip does have a thinner blade. I prefer a little more robust blade, especially if it is the only knife I am carrying, which, for most people, it will be. Most people will use their pocket knife for more than just cutting.

Re: VG-10 vs 154CM I would choose VG-10. I had a full size Griptilian in my bag on the boat and though I never used it it had spots of rust on the flat of the blade. I have used several VG-10 knives as a commercial fisherman and did not have a problem with rust at all. I don't mind rust spots on my knives that I am using but some people might. I find 154CM to be similar to ATS-55 and I understand that it is very close to ATS-34 in its properties.

To me, it comes down to the lock. Axis trumps lockback.

Not too enthused about the hole opening assistance means, either.

I prefer the opening hole to any other method. For me it provides a secure purchase for the thumb and provides a more positive opening. I don't flick my knife open with the tip of my thumb though and for this perhaps a thumbstud is more suitable. I think that the axis lock is a very secure lock but I have never had a lockback from any reputable company fail on me.

Thank you for the review. I appreciate the objectivity you provided. I am a grip fan-full size, but will most likely buy a military or (get one for Christmas). Benchmade and Spyderco both make very good quality users. I am not trying to drift off topic, just got big hands, and believe your info for these smaller knives, can also be applied to the biggers. I love reading these comparisons, when done in an objective fashion, as I believe you did quite well.

I like the full size Griptilian as well. It is a very ergonomical knife. Compared with the Endura though I would have to choose the Endura, again, for the price, I would prefer VG-10 the Spyderhole and a slimmer overall knife.

Pete
 
I have the Delica and Griptillian 550. I prefer the spyderco. It's slimmer in the pocket, I like the locking mechanism better, vg-10 rather than 440c.
 
To me the only thing that is potentially better with the Griptilian is the thinner grind. The Delica grind makes the blade stronger though. And if you want a thinner blade, there is always the FFG Delica :-).
 
For me the smoothness and security of Axis Lock can't be beaten, but I also like the lock back of the Delica.
I prefer the thumb studs and drop point blade of the 556 Mini Grip to the 555HG.
 
I love and use both. I got the original Delica (with full Spyder-Edge, etc) back when they first came out. I fell in love with the design after seeing a Spyderco for the first time in the Stallone movie Cliffhanger. I alternate as a backup EDC either the Delica4 or 556(?) MiniGrip or on occasion the Ritter MiniGrip, though after hearing all the chipping issues with S30V, I always feel hesitant to put the RSK through hard use.
Since getting it, my current EDC is the Spyderco Dragonfly VG10 steel with G10 scales. I love the looks, quality, size, etc as an urban EDC and will likely get the Delica4 version too. Definitely a step up from the original Delica4 in terms of feel, fit, materials, etc IMHO.

Like Steven said above though, the Axis lock is definitely the smoother opener, much easier for me to open than the lockbacks, especially on my Ritter where it opens like butter.

Thanks for the non-biased review! It is a tough choice. :-)
 
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