Throwing of an SAS Soldier ???

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Ghost Kobun

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I work in a community college in a small town, the location of this town resides closely to a Canadian military base. It was rumored last year that one of the mature students was infact an SAS scout. His profile was to appear as a mature student, & scout for potential soldiers, as Canada is a commonwealth country. The near by base facilated some of his work load.

My question: As many doubted this gent, I did not. As he told me some very acurate details of his training. As a demo, he showed us how at 30 Feet, any object could be thrown, & penetrated a beer cap stuck to a wall.

Now I have been involved in the Bushi for around twenty five years, & throwing is not my speciality. I ask this question, how many people could accuratly throw sharp objects, at a target, 30 feet away.

??? As I asked more about the "Scout" it was said that shooting without a scope was also one of his talents.

Could this be done by Joe Blow or what??

Kobun
 
I've known of SAS shooting at 600yards without scopes. Sniper type work seems to be a big role for them. Knife throwing hasn't been mentioned in any of the SAS type stuff that come up in UKTV about them or the books written by ex member. the writers are known to overdo just what they are capable of so you would expect them to overplay knife use as well but they don't.
 
Thanks for your reply!
This guy could throw a screwdriver, comming into a room ,not knowing where the target was, & hit it.
His"prospect" was also schooled in the finer arts of markmanship,with rifle or knife.
I was in fact told by some military heavies, that he may have been a master sniper.

Kobun
 
So you actually saw him stick a beer cap into a wall at 30 feet?

Doesn't seem likely without extensive modification of the beer cap. It has almost no weight, and while the metal edges can sting skin, I can't see it penetrating latex-painted drywall.

You can throw lots of things and make them stick--not sure you'd want to, or why this SAS scout (such as he's called) would train in something he'd really never use in combat.
 
Watchful said:
So you actually saw him stick a beer cap into a wall at 30 feet?

Doesn't seem likely without extensive modification of the beer cap. It has almost no weight, and while the metal edges can sting skin, I can't see it penetrating latex-painted drywall.

You can throw lots of things and make them stick--not sure you'd want to, or why this SAS scout (such as he's called) would train in something he'd really never use in combat.
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I think he meant that the beer cap target was penetrated by the object thrown. (maybe the screwdriver)

As far as why he would train like that, my guess is it makes a good recruitment tool.
 
I'd of thought it possible. Like learning most things if you practice to a sufficient level it will become second nature so you can judge throwing to that accuracy although i am not that proficient sadly.
Also with it being the SAS wouldn't they be trained in all aspects of combat including knives although I am not sure of this as a fact.
 
Yes I actually seen the demonstration.

They would train in the near by mountains, in one exercise, the target was a tree. THey advanced full gear, & throw a knife every ten feet, to a tree.

SAS scout or recruiter. Scouting for new talent.

Kobun
 
I'm pretty sure that if this guy told you out-and-out that he was an SAS man, then he wasn't.
 
Jim, Thanks for your comment.
The gent in question only reveiled this information to a few of us. The teachers in the class, noticed too many skills, this gent was amazing with leadership/mechanics/welding/forging. Skills of which are slowly disappearing from the common College student.

He told very few people about this, perhaps five people.

Some of us, he was recruiting ...

Kobun


P.S. As many of us are still puzzled over the whole thing, as this gent disappeared,as quickly as he entered.

Being the reason I asked about the knife throwing skills.

Can anyone else pull this demo ?

As I said, I still have not been able to find anyone with this skill.

Kobun
 
Hello All , I am very sure that gent was not involved with the SAS of any of the three commenwealth countries which have SAS on their books , firstly the regiment does not go looking for talent from other countries military forces secondly knife throwing is looked on as a fun pastime at best by SAS troops and thirdly he most definatly would not be telling you he was SAS at all , guys when the regiment runs a selection course hundreds turn up and MAYBE a dozen make it in , they dont advertise and certainly wouldnt be spending thier time telling people down at the local college of their current form of employment and as for recruiting direct from the public you are dreaming kobun :rolleyes: the attitude of the SAS to knife combat is pretty simple , if you are down to defening yourself with a blade you must have stuffed up. this post smells fishy to me , Fishmonger
 
The SAS has plenty of candidates comming in from inside the army to get into the SAS.

Active duty SAS members never reveal their identity.

What i do know is that sometimes SAS members are send to work in an E.R as an interm for a few months to get used to handle polytrauma's.

It is possible that there was an SAS guy present at your college but IF he was genuine he was there to learn a certain VERY specific skill the regular army could not provide themself. Maybe to learn a specific language (say Tibetan).

If he was genuine , he clearly broke the regiments rules working deepcover by showing off.

Most SAS members are blenders, they have the capacity to blend in the local community, they are chosen on their low profile appearance. IF the SAS ever send one of their active duty members to college he would probably be the silent type, unobtrusive, a grey mouse.

I have a friend in a special unit. He turns his head away when he spots a camera, and demands that if he spots you taking his picture to destroy the picture. I found out he has a cellphone, wich he denied and but his parents don't even have the number, and i don't know if he will ever feel the need to give his cellphone number to me. If i wan't to reach him he calls me or i have to call his parents and tell them who i am, and ask them to give him the message. If he feels the need to call me, otherwise i have bad luck.

I don't know if he has a GF or not, i never get any postcards and always find out later that he had to go "somewhere".
 
The SAS can recruit from the three common wealth countries, as Fishmonger indicated. Due to a lack of people joining the forces,scouts 'MAY' be sent out to pool talent.

I agree, the SAS rarely talk about their deeds & glories. True warriors

Yet I also saluted the fact; that he could throw that well. Furthermore, his deep understanding of logistics/team building/VIP protection/AOP drills/the Ghurkas/knife making ect...

Like I said, we are close to the most influencial CFB in Canada.
He also did reveil only to a few people.

A few years ago the SAS sent 'trainers', here. Their mission was to train the Airborn Regiment in refine strategies of war.

After capturing ALL the Canadian soldiers, the SAS took all of their gear, & left them surrounded by razor wire. Problem was the temp. was -12.

It was a hard lesson for the Airborn. Bleed in training NOT in war

When word leaked of the SAS being here, as they posed as engineers, all vanished.

Who knows who this guy was: Point is he could throw knives.

Kobun
 
Hi All , Mongo man you are spot on about them working in ER around the place :) , The reality is that these guys do cross post and advise friendly nations forces on military matters and do outsource skills from civilian sources but would not break cover to show off to people they barely know with circus tricks . I can assure you that this bloke was yanking your chain kobun this is completely out of character for them , but that trick with the throwing sounds pretty cool :D , as for how to join the SAS its pretty straight forward , join the military , get very fit , lose any attitude , learn the basic skills of the infantry and learn and i mean really learn how to navigate apply to go on the Carter course (in Australia SASR ) and give it your all , then when it dosent work do all of the above again and re apply for a second and final go , Good luck , best regards , Fishmonger
 
Sorry to the original poster if I am mistaked, but his posts have that familiar scent of mall ninja bs.
There ain't nothing secretive about SF guys... I mean, the tab & insignia is on their uniform. The ones I know are, as a whole, friendly, a bit laid back, and very professional. They act like soldiers, not like the secretive ninjas some of you seem to be talking about.
Don't know anyone from SAS, but I doubt very much that it is much different from SF in terms of culture.
Edited to add: sorry, didn't realize that this was over a week old.
 
SAS recruit from within the military (UK and Commonwealth) and not at civilian level.

A serving SAS member would not let his identity be made public.In fact any publicity of the unit is seriously frowned upon...The MOD and UK government have also tried to prevent ex members publishing books about their unit experiences ...Current members now take an oath not to reveal or publish accounts of their service even after retirement, .....so dont expect to hear anything of the regiments operations in todays theatre as has been written in the past about Gulf War 1.

Formed and active since WW2, very little was known about them until the Embassy seige in London back in 1980.

I think that 'his' SAS scout student story is untrue....though I am not dismissing your account of what you were told (or saw)....He may be someone very skilled, maybe he has some form of military background, but the SAS bit is fictitious.
 
Will P. said:
Sorry to the original poster if I am mistaked, but his posts have that familiar scent of mall ninja bs.
There ain't nothing secretive about SF guys... I mean, the tab & insignia is on their uniform. The ones I know are, as a whole, friendly, a bit laid back, and very professional. They act like soldiers, not like the secretive ninjas some of you seem to be talking about.
Don't know anyone from SAS, but I doubt very much that it is much different from SF in terms of culture.
Edited to add: sorry, didn't realize that this was over a week old.
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You may see CNN of FOX following US SF soldiers around during training or on active service, but you will NEVER see the same exposure of SAS(or SBS) regiments.......in fact, its never officialy reported that they are anywhere.
 
SF recruits from within the army, not civilians. Typically, recruits have been in the army for at least 3 years.

Media coverage of SF and other US spec ops units is limited to training and training tests - deployments are still very secretive.
Also, the media incorrectly reports which units they are covering.

Now that people know more about SF, they neeed to find new "ninjas"? ;)

Ghost Kobun said:
He told very few people about this, perhaps five people.

Some of us, he was recruiting ...
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I mean, how melodramatic do you need to be to be a mall ninja?
If taken at face value, he seems to be very guillible.
'Course, my bs meter has always been a bit sensitive, so I might be :foot: .

Edited to add: Come to think of it, I have no idea how sf guys act around civilians. I doubt they are very open about their profession - most soldiers on leave do their damnest to blend in with everyone else when not near a military post.
 
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