Thumbstuds as blade stop. More durable?

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mantzao

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Hello guys,

Since I got my Hinderers I stuck to the idea that using dual thumbstuds as a blade stop is better than to have a stop pin by itself.
I mean besides actuating as the blade stop it also prevents the lateral bladeplay on the knife.
Is it also more durable than regular stop pin? What do you think?
I see my first custom having this kind of studs because of my belief in this but when I see designs like the newly released Spyderco flipper I wonder if my opinion on this matter is somewhat right or not.
What do you guys think?
Are the regular stop pins just as good when it comes to the knife's durability?

Thanks for looking:)
 
I've had the blade stop / thumb stud fall out of both a Strider and ZT. I'll take a little blade play before a knife that can't be used at all.
 
twid said:
I've had the blade stop / thumb stud fall out of both a Strider and ZT. I'll take a little blade play before a knife that can't be used at all.
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That's odd, I've tried to take the thumbstud off of my ZT 0200 with no success at all.

To OP: I like the design, and I think it does help with bladeplay. As for durability, I don't think you have to worry about that at all. Most folders are locked in by a hardened steel pin. It is not going to be the first point of failure.
 
I think that the thumbstud stop pin is stronger because it has more leverage than an internal stop pin.
But it always seems theres not much metal on the frame, backing up the studs.
Although it is easier to clean off the blade stop.
 
res1cue said:
That's odd, I've tried to take the thumbstud off of my ZT 0200 with no success at all.

To OP: I like the design, and I think it does help with bladeplay. As for durability, I don't think you have to worry about that at all. Most folders are locked in by a hardened steel pin. It is not going to be the first point of failure.
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I just removed the thumb studs from my zt0200 by tapping it out with a mallet with a socket underneath. I just sent it out for a regrind and I'll probably leave it out after I put it back together when I get it back. I find that its not needed since I always use the flipper. Since its so smooth, I can also open it using the hole, even though its much smaller than a Spyderco thumbhole. I also took the thumb studs off my Rake when I refinished the blade, and have left it out as well.
 
gooeytek said:
I just removed the thumb studs from my zt0200 by tapping it out with a mallet with a socket underneath. I just sent it out for a regrind and I'll probably leave it out after I put it back together when I get it back. I find that its not needed since I always use the flipper. Since its so smooth, I can also open it using the hole, even though its much smaller than a Spyderco thumbhole. I also took the thumb studs off my Rake when I refinished the blade, and have left it out as well.
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I'd say a ZT200 without the thumbstuds would be freakin' awesome because the studs often snag on my pocket when I take it out.
 
Yup, that's my impression too, Chuck. It looked noticeably cleaner without the thumb stud, and would be easier to sharpen. I wish I took pics before I sent it out.
 
gooeytek said:
Yup, that's my impression too, Chuck. It looked noticeably cleaner without the thumb stud, and would be easier to sharpen. I wish I took pics before I sent it out.
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Gonna have to try a bit harder to get the thumbstuds out on mine. :)
 
gooeytek said:
Yup, that's my impression too, Chuck. It looked noticeably cleaner without the thumb stud, and would be easier to sharpen. I wish I took pics before I sent it out.
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I'd love to see some pictures of your studless and reground 0200, once you get it back.
 
I have had blade stop/studs (2pcs) come apart on a early Chris Reeve Umnumzaan and also had a blade crack on a Strider,,,,I believe these to be isolated rare incodents but they still happened.
 
Got it back from richardj today.

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Don't know why, but its bigger than I expected. The hole combined with the jimped thumbramp, gives it that predatory look also seen on some Spydercos. I like it.
 
Does anyone happen to know how other thumbstuds are constructed? Specifically the CRK Umnumzaan, Hinderer XM18 or Striders in general? Can't recall any stories of them falling out or even becoming lose, though still something I'd worry about.
 
mantzao said:
Hello guys,

Since I got my Hinderers I stuck to the idea that using dual thumbstuds as a blade stop is better than to have a stop pin by itself.
I mean besides actuating as the blade stop it also prevents the lateral bladeplay on the knife.
Is it also more durable than regular stop pin? What do you think?
Thanks for looking:)
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More to the point, my friend, is what does RICK think? "The blade locks up on a solid ¼ in diameter Thumb stud which is press fitted into the blade. This makes for a very strong lockup as there is no loosening of the thumb stud which can happen with two piece designs. The fact that the thumb stud locks up against the frame adds an incredible amount of strength to the sideways torque of the blade as the sideways stresses are being stopped by the whole handle side, thus relieving the stress that would normally be put on the pivot." Thanks to Rick's website.
 
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