Time for a new club? Budgie 417

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I received my pair of Buck Budgies, and they are really nice fit and finish, and actually surpassed my expectations. The green G10 is in my pocket as a money clip. The only change I would like to make is to remove the red cerakote from the black G10 lanyard ring, any ideas?
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I received mine today. I am not very happy with it. I like the blade and that is about it.

This one is extremely tight and the lock cannot be adjusted the best that I can determine. It is nearly impossible to open one handed.

Being left handed, I was hoping that there would be enough of the opening slot to get a purchase on it with my left thumb, but it is blocked. I have to use both hands to open it.

I knew that it was small, but it is even smaller than I expected.

Plus, it does not open smoothly and it is not centered, not even close. It seems to be rubbing on one scale.

This is supposed to be a premium knife, the Pro line, but not in my eyes.
 
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I have 3 now. Two of them opened easily one-handed out-of-the-box and the 3rd while one was very tight. I see it has a torx screw that can be adjusted. I went ahead and used a T6 torx bit to adjust, now it opens as easily as the other two.
 
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So far I am happy with my Budgie. It was tight at first , after lubing the pivot with mineral oil I can open with one (right) hand. I wanted a coin pocket knife and my Buck Apex made it difficult to get my hand in my big pocket. Budgie works for what I wanted, a new toy.
Daniel my blade is not centered but it does not bother me, after having Vantages I got used to it.

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The centering thing I don’t pay much attention except when it is actually rubbing.

I took mine completely apart today and got it working more or less. I can open it with my left hand if I start it with my middle finger in the backside and finish it with my thumb. It is still not smooth even after lubrication of the detente ball and the pivot. It is not rubbing the scale anymore.

I am still not impressed with my Budgie. I have paid a lot less for a much better knife.


So far I am happy with my Budgie. It was tight at first , after lubing the pivot with mineral oil I can open with one (right) hand. I wanted a coin pocket knife and my Buck Apex made it difficult to get my hand in my big pocket. Budgie works for what I wanted, a new toy.
Daniel my blade is not centered but it does not bother me, after having Vantages I got used to it.

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Daniel, sorry to hear about your experiences with the Budgie. I am a lefty also, but mine have been centered and consistent as far as opening goes. I did not buy these to use as a primary knife, so one or two handed opening is not a concern for me. My primary knife is in my left front pocket, while my money clip is in my right pocket. What I was looking for was a nice blade, that I could use as a money clip. To my mind, it excels at these tasks.
 
There's something special about the Budgie. First and foremost, the blade is wickedly sharp. Granted, it's not the most pointy blade for piercing, but the S35VN takes sharpness to a different level. It's fairly light and strong with good traction on the G-10 handle. It's size makes it very easy to carry in the pocket.

Like others, I've had some issues with opening and closing, but I'm working that.

I've disassembled mine twice and made a few modifications, primarily to smooth out the action. On the first disassembly I filed a detent ramp into the blade lock face to aid in less jerky closing action. It made a significant difference. I also checked out the washers and they appear to be nylon - a material not know to produce the smoothest available action. Phosphor bronze might have been a better choice for this knife. I also left the pocket clip off...for now.

Tonight, I took it apart again and made a few more modifications. First, I extended the detent ramp further up the blade making a more gradual slope and transition. Then, I polished the detent ball track and blade surface where the washer contacts, using 2500 grit wet/dry sandpaper. While I was at it, I used a diamond rod to take the sharp edges off the thumb hole - I've done this on several Vantages too. I wish Buck would have chamfered around those cut outs. Finally, removed some material with a Dremel from the frame lock where it makes contact with the over travel stop, which is actually the head of the pivot barrel. This allowed for an extra few thousandths travel of the frame lock when opening and closing. After a good cleaning and oiling, it's back together and working somewhat smoother. Blade centering has been acceptable throughout, but not perfect.

Here is what I think is going on with the Budgie's action. The frame lock pressure is too great, putting excessive force on the detent ball causing friction against the satin finished blade, requiring more effort to open and close. Even with the pivot adjusted to zero blade play, the force of the lock bar is pushing the blade off center. That might be a result of the nylon washers flexing or giving under pressure.

Lots of things to like about the Budgie, but accepting the fact that it is probably a two-hand opener may be a reality for some. Regardless, I'm contemplating getting the natural G-10 version too!
 
Mentioned in the other 417 thread that there was a club, so I went looking, and here it is. When I first saw this new thing I wasn't impressed and was going to pass. But if I keep reading about it I just may have to give it a try. Y'all tell me again why I "need" this so I have something to tell Mrs ID... 😄
 
Like the look of the black G10 and red lanyard. Like the blade shape, steel, and lock. For the money it's just a wee bit tiny. I would like to see a larger version. Therefore, I shall await the SuperBudgie, which no doubt will be developed, announced and released within the foreseeable future.
 
I have had a black BUDGIE for two weeks. The action is smooth and slightly stiffer than I would prefer. The blade centering is slightly off but the blade is not rubbing. The lock up is tight with no play. Opening and closing with the right hand is easy but with the left hand it takes some practice to get the technique right. I removed the pocket clip and with the lanyard loop it works well as a key fob.
 
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