Time Until Sunset?

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Here's another simple trick to estimate how much time you have until sunset. This can be useful to know when gathering firewood, when to start looking for a campsite, or when to start heading back.

I took as much of the math out as I can. With luck, you won't need any at all.

First, this only works after midday. I don't mean noon--noon is the time on the clock. Midday is the point when the sun is halfway between rising and setting.

This can be adapted to determine time-till-sunset prior to noon, but you get into a little bit of adding there, and I'm trying to keep this easily memorable.

Also, this can work on a partly cloudy day, or even an overcast day provided you can see shadows.

All right. Ready?

Position yourself on relatively flat ground so that you can see an object and its shadow. A sign post, the roof line of a building, a cactus, a telephone pole, whatever. You could even put a stick into the ground if you're short of anything obvious.

Take a straight edge (ruler, walking stick, or fold a piece of paper in half) and hold it out so that you connect the very end of the shadow to the very top of the object casting that shadow.

Estimate the tilt in degrees. Remember: 90 is straight up (midday, in which case there would be little shadow), 0 is darkness, right? So halfway is 45 degrees. A third of that up is 30 degrees. Two-thirds up is 60 degrees... you probably have your own tricks.

Divide this by 15. That gives you the number of hours until sunset.

Example:

You see a dead tree with an obvious cracked limb in the distance. You can see the shadow of the limb on the trail ahead. Standing to the side, you pull out your folded map of the area. Holding your arms out, you use the map's straight folded edge to connect the shadow of the broken limb to the actual broken limb.

45 degree angle? Three hours until sunset.

60 degree angle? Four hours to sunset.

20 degree angle? One hour and twenty minutes to sunset.

15 degree angle? The shadows are very long, because you have only about one hour to sunset.

Caveats: again, in the morning, you need to go in the opposite direction to get to mid day, and then add 90 degrees to the result.

Also, remember that the sun is variably close to the South horizon (in the Northern Hemisphere) or the North horizon (in the Southern Hemisphere). As a result, your shadow might point more to the North or South, throwing off your calculation. But this only happens around midday--as you get closer to sunset, this method gets progressively more accurate. Frankly, in my opinion, that's when you'd need increasing accuracy.

Therefore, use this method to get a ballpark estimate until the shadow angle is about 30 degrees... then, you can get more accurate as you approach your two-hour-to-sunset window.

Hope this helps.
 
depending on the length of your arm and thickness of your knuckles... I can extend my arm and estimate the number of "knuckles" from the horizon to the bottom edge of the Sun...each knuckle is approx 15minutes... stack your hands on top of each other for additional time
 
depending on the length of your arm and thickness of your knuckles... I can extend my arm and estimate the number of "knuckles" from the horizon to the bottom edge of the Sun...each knuckle is approx 15minutes... stack your hands on top of each other for additional time
Yep, provided you can see the sun through the clouds. With the method I have here, you only need a dominant shadow. Plus, you don't need to look directly at the sun.

Also, Les, the knuckle method you recommend also works at night, whereas mine does not. Line a star up over an obvious point on the horizon. Stars move "one knuckle" (or one fingerwidth) every fifteen minutes near the horizon.

Note: the Les Snyder method is also subject to the same caveats that I list. If the Sun is very close to the Southern horizon, you might think you have an hour until sunset, when in reality to might have quite a few. Always measure to the Western horizon, in either hemisphere!
 
depending on the length of your arm and thickness of your knuckles... I can extend my arm and estimate the number of "knuckles" from the horizon to the bottom edge of the Sun...each knuckle is approx 15minutes... stack your hands on top of each other for additional time

That is what I have used for many years... Ski
 
I'll try that next time I am out, if I can remember it. :thumbup:

While I'm reading the forums, I like to keep a small notebook nearby that I jote down notes on. Then when I'm out in the woods during a campout or hike, I know what things I want to work on and try.:thumbup:
 
lost me at "divide by 15". that's one of the reasons i go out into the boonies. i've been using the hand width estimation for decades. always have the tools with me, don't need any math and it's close enough.

KISS! :D
 
Ive always just used the width of my hand between the sun and horizon to estimate how much light I have left. 1 hand = roughly 1 hour.
 
I hand/ 1 hr. method for me. Another if in a fixed camp is put a small stick in the ground vertical ( 3' long or so ) and mark the tip shadow with a stone on the ground as late in the day as you can. Tomorrow you have a marker.:)
 
I use it mostly when hunting.

If you extend your arm and put your hand between the sun and the horizon. For every finger that will fit between the sun and the horizon you have about 20 minutes of daylight left.
 
I like the old school method:

Look at the sky, notice it's starting to get dark, know sunset is on the way....

:)
 
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