Tinder (Do you carry it?)

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I have been watching some YouTube vids and reading various books it seems by and large that folks don't carry tinder under most circumstances. I know I have never carried it. What are your thoughts on packing tinder in?

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I always carry a small piece of fatwood along with my firesteel. Also, on longer hikes, my first aid kit contains at least three items that could be used as tinder (write-in-the-rain paper, alcohol swabs, cotton balls). Finally, if I carry an alcohol stove, I could use that as well.
 
I have PJ cotton balls in my RAT firesteel. Sometimes I take a piece of fatwood.
 
I always carry a little tinder or fire starter with me. Fatwood and a little multi-use jute twine just in case.
 
i always carry tinder when Im out and about... I have a KSF firekit which has lots of tinder...

As far as getting a fire going in wet weather, the KSF kit is great for those days when it is raining beyond rain, I find building a little a-frame helps protect a baby fire from the elements... Shelter for me, shelter for fire...

Having a candle is another essential for starting fire in wet weather...

Fuzz sticks, birch bark, pine pitch, wax,vaseline soaked cotton balls, and magnesium are your best friends for wet weather fire. My fire kit is full of wax impregnated everything, tindercards, sisal rope, jute twine, cotton discs, tindersticks, and a magnesium firestarter. Magnesium is essential wet weather tinder IMO.

I also carry film canisters full of 0000 steel wool, and vaseline soaked cotton balls.

With all these, I have gotten a fire going in the middle of a rainforest during a downpour, on a windy day with no cover...
 
I have either a 35mm can of PJ cotton balls, a length of jute, or a chunk of fatwood tethered to my ferro rods and match safes. I also usually have a small notepad in my pocket and some tissues as well.
 
In both my BOB n GHB kits I have an Altoids tin of pjcb, fatwood and twine. No, I don't edc any tinder. But it is always in a kit.
 
I have one of those pill fobs full of pj\cb a chunk of fat wood with jute twine wrapped around it and a second pill fob full of mag block shavings in my fire kit .
 
I have a baggie of jute twine and lint in my backpack, as well as a bunch of kleenex and a roll of toilet paper.
So yes, I do have tinder wherever I roam.:)
 
I wrap my Nanostriker in jute using a whip knot (winding). I also carry some 1/2" lengths of bicycle inner tubes. The toilet paper is also available.
 
I carry it. A little PJ cotton and/or slivered fat wood is so light and easy to carry I don't see why I wouldn't have some with me. I'll use found/natural material if it is around but it is nice to have something you can count on in hand.

Mark
 
In Westrn Washington we know its summer when the rain gets warmer. That being said I ALWAYS carry tinder. PJB's in a small cannister on my knife sheath and millitary trioxine bars ( heat tabs ) in my pockets.
 
PJ cotton sealed in straws here along with random bits of paper and lint on my person.
 
I carry char cloth (along with the means to make more), fire straws for those times when i need fire "right now" and use mostly improvised tinders where i can find em.
 
I don’t think that the answer of exactly what you carry is nearly as important as deciding for yourself whether you should carry something, or rely soley on natural sources of tinder. Here are my thoughts on it.

When you really start to think about the absolute minimum, I am talking bare minimum of items that you should have, tinder and open flame sure makes the short list for me. My requirement for what makes that list is that if it would take a considerable amount of time or resources to re-create in the wild. Notice I did not say “impossible” to recreate. Just a significant amount of time and effort. Let’s take a look at what I mean.

I do not think that most people would doubt that a useful item to have would be a knife. It is a tool that other tools can be created with to make things easier. If I don’t have my knife, I am not dead in the water. With the right knowledge, stone implements could be used. That would take a knowledge that I don’t personally have, so I am guessing here. But, it would take a knowledge of a particular family of rocks and how to process them appropriately to at least get a cutting edge. The resource could possibly be very distant from our location during time of need or difficult to find at best (low light). Most of us just come to the conclusion that that is too much time and effort and we carry a knife.

Primitive firestarting is something that I know a little bit more knowledgable about than rocks :) I am confident in my abilities in that area, but not so arrogant to think that it is EVER a sure thing :) I practice these skills (or more honestly, used to practice these skills) for a sense of enjoyment and the ever present “what if” scenario.

If we are talking about a true life and death scenario, I don’t want to have to use those skills. Why? Because more than likely, something is wrong already. Injury, cold, wet, dark, or any combination of those things. If you have ever tried to light a fire in rainforest-style dampness with only primitive methods, it is tough under non-threatening conditions. If my well being now depneds on it, I am going to want to do things as quickly and easily as possible.

With that said, two things are high on my list. 1) A source of open flame. I am not about to give up my firesteel for durability reasons, but the size an weight of a typical bic is hard to justify not carrying. 2) A chemical or natural substance capable of sustaing that flame for a few seconds or more. The reason for these two is that an open and sustained flame has a much better chance of drying out damp tinder than any type of sparking device. If you want the best chance of success, these seem to be the way to it, in my mind. If you agree with that, then it just becomes a matter of figuring out what brand and style of those devices is your personal favorite. Which is the fun part, right? Getting to play with gadgets? I mean, isn’t that why we are talking about this stuff :)

All of that is talking real emergency stuff though. If you want to talk recreation, I pretty much use neither of those two things : ) They are on the very short list of “emergency” items and don’t get regularly used in order to conserve them. I just regularly check them. For the casual fire I will absolutely use the firesteel or more primitive method and pretty much only natural materials. The “emergency” supplies are just that, and thankfully, I have not needed them.

The knowledge of being able to get by without some things does not keep me from being realistic to the facts of how difficult and time consuming some things can be.


B
 
In the warmer months, if I am in the areas here I am very familiar with, I may go light even on long hikes and so not take any tinder with me, especially in the hottest weeks. The last thing I'll be wanting is a fire because A) heat indexes of 114F do not inspire fire starting, B) In the hottest weeks we go days without rain and open fires are not all that wise, and C) I take water purification tabs to purify any water I need. I make the decision on what I will need at the time I get out of the truck and prepare to depart. In the colder and wetter months I don't ever hit the woods, even on short day hikes, without two and sometimes three forms of accelerants so that if needs be I can make "fire now" under any conditions. Cold weather injuries are never pleasant experiences.
 
I was never one for carrying tinder around but frankly living in the north of England the weather has started to dictate the need to!

Have opted for Tindercard for it's waterproof qualities, along side the 'safety fuse' (salt petre impregnated cotton rope) that I have snaffled from work (fireworks company). It takes a spark from a ferro rod or, once charred, from a flint and steel. Forms a good and strong, slow burning ember. I use some brass tube to snuff and protect the char.

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Together I have most bases covered. I've also gotten into the habit of pocketing natural tinders as I bimble along. Usually this means I have a pocket full of Honeysuckle or Birch bark, thistle down or if I'm lucky, Bog Cotton (which I have found to be very effective).

Edited to add: Mr Andrews I think you make some really excellent points. Your knife analogy is spot on!
 
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