tips for throwing hawks

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I don't see any threads concerning this. Some of you may have been throwing hawks for years, feel free to chime in here. Others may be thinking about it and have no clue where to begin. This is for you. My friends and I have been throwing for years. Here is a bit of advice gleaned from our experience.

1) everyone has to find their own throwing style... I throw like a base ball pitcher from the stretch position. This may not work for you. Experiment, everyone is different!
2) you need to be the correct distance from the target so that the hawk makes one revolution in the air. Generally its about 6-7 " normal" steps from the target. Once you find YOUR sweet spot you can make a mark in the dirt and return to it every time. Generally I go to the target, walk 6 paces back, make a mark in the dirt and I'm set for the day. Your sweet spot may be a little more or less distance from the target. Again, everyone is different.
3) sometimes we don't throw hawk for months, but because we have mastered numbers 1 and 2 above we can consistently stick our hawks near the center of the target block after a few practice throws.
4) if you are having trouble getting your hawk to stick in the target consistently you may need to cut your handle to a shorter length. But how short? Use this trick as a rule of thumb. Make a fist. Measure your arm from your elbow to the top of your fist and cut to that length. Be careful. You may not need to cut off that much. You can always cut more off if need be, but you can't add on. I was having trouble getting my hawk to stick until I used this trick. One cut and voila!
5) you need a hawk balanced for throwing. One that is too heavy or too light will make it hard to throw well. I have a M&W Black Hawk. My buddy has a H&B Seneca. I can recommend those two. Other brands will work as well. Just get one balanced for throwing.
6) tighten your handle by pounding the handle end on the ground. Don't use a wedge or glue etc. If your hawk hits the target in an awkward position that would otherwise break the handle the only thing that will happen is that the hawk head and handle will separate. If you need another handle removing the old one is easy. BTW your hawk handle will still be tight enough to chop kindling and pound nails.
7) accessories. You need an extra handle or two. They don't last forever, but will probably last for years. After 6 years mine will need to be replaced soon because I'm within 3/4 inch of the end of the handle after dozens of times pounding the handle on the ground to tighten the handle. I have never seen a handle break after a throw, but there is always a first time. You need a file to sharpen the edge. Not super sharp, just sharp enough to make it easy for your hawk to stick. I sharpen once a session and it only takes a few minutes. A leather sheath is nice to have. Mine has a belt loop for carry.
8) targets. What works well is a piece of log about 2 feet in diameter and about 6-8 inches thick. Use spray paint to paint concentric rings and a bulls eye in the center.Sometimes we throw at playing cards. We use a tripod contraption to hold our target block. The bottom of the target block is about 5 feet off the ground.
9) for a challenge go back about 12 or so steps for two revolutions to the target. The more we drink, the farther back we go.
10) knife throwing is similar, only a little harder to make consistent sticks. You need to find a balanced throwing knife. I got mine from Beaver Bill, but again other brands are out there that work well. Also, you may need to move back about a half step from your hawk position.

I love to throw hawks. They are cheap, once you have your initial investment. They are quiet. And they are relatively safe compared to firearms and even bows. Just make sure you wait for your buddy to come back from down range before throwing.
 
some buddies and me are going to take up target throwing this summer and this thread has some great advice for the novice. thanks :)

i also purchased michael janich's throwing tape from paladin press and out of all the things he throws the tomahawk has the most power. i think i want to get some cheap cold steel hawks and throwers to start out with and maybe a torpedo.
 
harpers ferry
good advice don't think the drinking bit is very cleaver:eek: you should always remember hawks can kill or mame
 
harpers ferry Ward and June would not approve.??
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
 
Hi,
I have put up two poles behind the target, between the poles I have a net (web) of steel, a fence? It is 2 meters high and 1,5 meters wide. The net is not stretch, just fasten on the poles and on a wire between the poles high up. It works very good to take care about axes who, of some mystic reason, miss the target completely..
The net do not damage the aces.

I thinking about to make a sort of V-shape of net, = also on the sides of the target, two more poles and the sides are protected also. Of cause, this for my buddy’s who can not throw at all… :D

I do not knew if there are any roles about throwing axes? I throw from 15 meters after some training and the axe make about 6-7 turns during the throw before it hit the target. From 15 meters I hit mostly in a 30 cm wide circle in the middle of the target. I try to hit with the upper corner of the axe head so the handle is in 45 degrees. That is, in my mind, a nice hit.

I use a triploid and a part of a tree as target. Bulls aye is 160 cm over ground.

I use small axes, about half a kilo, one hand axes, and I make the axes my self.
I have make a small mark for the thumb on the handles. I hold my thumb upwards (parlell) along the handle. In that way I always find the right grip on the handle and I always throw in the same way. More or less power depending on the distance. Over 9 meters, I take a step forwards during the throw motion to get extra power. I try to find the limit in length for throwing this type of axes, length in combination with hit precision in the target.

I have no problems with the handle today. I have problems in the beginning when the axe often hit the target with the handle. One of my axe have a wood handle of birch, the other of glass fiber.

About alcohol…. I have tried throwing after a nice dinner with Swedish “snaps”. I do not work at all. Frustrating! One little snaps, and the axe go its own way. I think it have to do with my breath..

I believe in the law of nature. The most fittest survive. The weak die.
Alcohol kills brain cells, that is a fact. But it is the weak brain cells who dies.
That means that the best survives and statically you get more and more intelligent… ;)

Thomas
 
Nice one Thomas hope your not throwing the axe with the copper and brass lines on if you are :eek: your loseing to many cells:D

Thanks for the bigger pic's
Chris
 
witchhunter said:
some buddies and me are going to take up target throwing this summer and this thread has some great advice for the novice. thanks :)

i also purchased michael janich's throwing tape from paladin press and out of all the things he throws the tomahawk has the most power. i think i want to get some cheap cold steel hawks and throwers to start out with and maybe a torpedo.
Hi, Witchhunter. What's a torpedo? :)
You're right BTW, great advice from Harpers Ferry.
 
this is mostly for my European friends.
This is the arrangement we have. Not unusual in the U.S.
My pals have a humble hunting lodge in the the mountains of Pennsylvania, which is very close to my location. Look at your maps. My name is my location!
The lodge, we call it a camp, has alot of ameneties. A bass & catfishing pond and close access to trout fishing. Also deer, turkey, squirrel, pheasant,grouse, fox, rabbit, varmint and coyote hunting.
The camp has all the conveniences. Indoor toilet, wood stove heat, micro-wave oven and color TV to watch football, baseball and NASCAR after dark. Plenty of testosterone.
There is a 25 meter pistol range ,a 50 meter rifle range and a bow range. The hawk and knife throwing range is in addition to the rest. We mostly throw hawk and knife in the off seasons. i.e. hunting season is over and April-May trout season is over. So our hawk and knife stuff is mostly, but not exclusively, in the summer when the days are longest.
We are mostly middle aged married guys or have girl friends. Women are not welcome, certainly not our women, maybe strippers. We want to have some fun without being scolded.
Normally our schedule is this when we get together in the off season.We start shooting pistols about noon. Continue for a few hours. Clean pistols.
When the pistols are done the booze comes out. We have enough day light to do more, either fish or throw knife and hawk. Mostly the hawks and knives.
Now I know some may be concerned for our safety,Norca said as much.
But... if you wait to throw until your buddy comes back from the target what can go wrong that wouldn't otherwise? None of us has failed to follow this rule yet. We are adults , some may disagree esp. our women, so there is little danger and alot of fun without any real risk actually! We don't get really plastered until after dark anyway.
PS Edge Pal I like your logic about killing off the stupid brain cells. I'll use that excuse next time I get scolded from the old ball and chain about boozing
Cheers!
Rebel Yell
the finest bourbon
 
You must get a lot of cholesterol when you live like that? :eek:

Where I live, in the middle off Sweden, we test the level like this..

Go out one day during wintertime when Is really cold, take of you shirt, stand with the upper part of your body naked for three minutes, hold your arms crossed before you, and stand absolutely still.
If the small winter birds are coming and pick on your skin during these three minutes - the level is a little high, not to worry, but a little high… :cool:

Thomas
 
Hmm,

High cholesterol from hunting, fishing, shooting, throwing, drinking and enjoying good looking women? If that was the case I would have been dead by 18 and never made it to my mid 40's(and healthy). Hey Harper, I'm originally a Pa. man also. Sounds like we grew up about the same. Power to the damn yankees!!
 
Like knife throwing, hawk or hatchet throwing works best with consistency. You want to pick a standard stance, a standard step, a standard grip, a standard swing, a standard release... At first all you want to consciously vary is your distance from the target. You want to find your 3/4-turn distance (assuming that you nominally release with your handle pointed at the target). After you get that rock solid so that the hawk always sticks, adjust your stance and the direction of your step slightly and go for accuracy. Now go back and find your 1.75-turn distance.

What you don't want to do is change your grip and your step and the force of your swing all at the same time. Try for a single variable if you want to stick in the target from an in between range. I like to get a slower turn (for slightly longer than optimal range) by stretching my stride and slightly widening my swing. For shorter range I take a slightly shortened stride and slightly tighten my swing.

For a backstop I like to hang an old piece of carpet. This is a gentle backstop and things don't bounce back.

The best way to reduce the life span of your handle is to throw multiple hawks and/or knives at the target. Once I bought a totally indestructable super-hawk. It was a British combat hatchet. The blade shape was essentially hawk-like, but it was built 2 or 3 times thicker. Instead of just having a hole in the head for the handle the head had side straps that were around 1/4-inch thick that extended several inches down the side of the handle. The handle itself was pretty thick and reminded me a little of a baseball bat handle. The very first time I took it out throwing I pitched it into the end of a log I found by the side of a trail. I followed it up by pitching my throwing knife at the log. I nailed the handle of the hatchet and took out a big chunk. So much for indestructable. I still have it though. It will last longer than my life time.
 
harpers ferry has given a quick ditty on his life in the woods and camp well quote

"I know some may be concerned for our safety,Norca said as much"

Ihave had guns axe's and knifes all my life now 45 I fish hunt trap etc as a keeper its a way of life and the best thing ever is rideing a good chop bike built by self of course 15 years ago some ass hole who was 15 times over the limmit
here in the F###ING UK killed his self and pillion and wiped me out
breaking my neck lucky for me as i'm not in a chair and can still walk just
I still shoot hunt etc and love good and bad women just like I always did /do
and get great pleasure throwing hawks [not the done thing in the uk]
Ive seen first hand what drink does and yes I am concerned for your safty when throwing axe's and knifes
but if i'm being labled a pussy for what i see as sense
then go ahead mock away
and yes I do like a drink when the guns are away a bottle of "jack" go's down very well after a day in the woods
 
Norca,

No ones calling you a pussy. It is always best to be safe than sorry.
I give throwing lessons (knife,axe,hawk,spear,anything pointy) in exchange for Vingtsun instruction. I tell all my students that drinking and throwing don't mix. I however do enjoy having a few beers while throwing(not during class). Now I have been throwing since age 5 (I am 45 now) and learned very quickly just how fast a throwing implement can come right back at you. Everyones personal sense of safety is important. However, to each his own when it comes to all forms of personal safety.
 
The point of my second post is this: We go up to the camp to be a bunch of Neanderthals for a few precious hours then we go back to our normal lives. Also, we can probably get away with a little more stuff than you guys in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. That's my point no more , no less.
If you guys would come over here and visit, you will see!
 
If thats an invite with air fair :D i'll be with you the US has always had better hunting fishing etc than the UK

as the laws in the UK suck :yawn:
Been called a Neanderthal before so should fit in well long hair and ape like
 
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