Titanium Frame Locks

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So I have been drooling some over some of the Spyderco offerings in this. So far, I have arrived at the Techno, and Sage 2. Which of these two would you pick, and why?

I am leaning toward the Sage, just due to a little larger size. But I like the beefiness of the Techno.
 
I'm with you. Sage 2 is one of my next to own. I don't know how much I would like the small blade of the Techno. I got rid of a Persistence because it was a little too small for me, and I think the Techno is a touch smaller in the blade although definitely beefier.
 
Techno.. If you have a Sage 1 it is a no brainer otherwise the Sage is a more versatile blade with a larger handle. The Techno has almost as much edge and carries better (even fits in a watch pocket). The Techno is also more friendly looking and less likely to cause :eek: reactions..
 
I do not own a Sage, but do own a Techno and love it. It is like a little tank and surprisingly useful.
 
I had a Techno and didn't like how thick and short it was. If it wasn't so thick, it would have been much more comfortable to hold in a 3-finger grip. The Sage 2 blows it away in ergos.
 
This dilemma over the choice of these two seems to be a recurring theme in several threads bouncing around for people who seek out quality production Ti frame-locks . The good news is whichever one you choose, it and you will be a winner, and...will probably lead you to buy your second choice shortly thereafter.

I started with the Sage 2 (and 1), and like all Taichung produced Spyderco's, was astonished at it's fit/finish and overall quality feel approaching popular mid-techs...just an incredible sophisticated folder and exceptional deal at current going prices. The only downside for me was it's handle to blade ratio disparity and minor difficulty accessing the rear of the blade to sharpen, since there's no sharpening choil.

Then, liking the Sage 2 so much, I bought the Techno and was immediately even more impressed! With no finger choil (but a great sharpening choil) there is almost as much useful cutting edge as the Sage but the CTS-XHP steel IMO really is on a higher level than S30v. This steel sharpens even easier than S30v w/o the chipping concerns and when sharpening both blades at the same 30degree inc. angle, finishing on the same EF DMT stones...the Techno actually slices just as well as the Sage...and sometimes I believe even better? Further...it holds a shaving edge much longer than S30v...

There seems to be a kind of natural lubricity to XHP that when finished on a high grit stone, simply makes this steel glide through paper and cardboard without feeling the same scratchy sort of sound/feel that I typically get from S30v...it's really incredible stuff. Combine this with the dramatically thin edge behind the cutting bevel and this is one deceptively good slicer. The only knock against it is deep cutting of harder mediums due to spine width.

The Techno, to my eye...is gorgeous! The immaculate stonewashing of not only the scales and blade, but even the screws and clip really showcase Taichung's attention to detail...even the blue G10 backspacer is so perfectly fitted between the scales that it almost seems to be part of the titanium. In contrast to the elegant look of the Sage 2, with it's hidden lock-bar relief and soft even bead blasted finish and satin ground blade...the Techno looks like a beefy, manly, rugged, precision tool with it's outboard lock-bar cutout and stonewashing that actually starts to look better with age as a very subtle mottling starts to emerge. As good as the Sage 2 is...and it is very good...the Techno just speaks to me on another plane. (And apparently many others considering it's rabid fan base).

Slightly thicker and incrementally heavier than the Sage, the Techno still carries well and can even be carried in the fifth pocket of jeans. At this point in time, I can't imagine another production folder with this design aesthetic and level of F & F replacing this as my favorite EDC. I truly love this beefy little folder like no other knife I have ever owned.

EDIT: One other thing...out of a year of using both extensively and much obsessive opening and closing...the untreated Sage 2 lock-bar has moved slightly from new at approx. 30/35% to around 40%...The treated Techno's lock-bar is the same as the day I got it! Something to consider when buying, and more importantly...using...a Ti frame-lock.
 
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Great post knolan!

The Techno is a funny beast in many ways, but it just works for me.
 
Great post knolan!

The Techno is a funny beast in many ways, but it just works for me.

Thx...I know you like it a lot too flipe8 since I've seen your favorable posts on various forums. The first thing I think when reading others less than enthusiastic thoughts re the Techno is that they haven't actually used it...or haven't used it enough to realize it's merits.

It is a "funny beast" in the way this knife contradicts itself by slicing far better than it should with the wide spine, rather than being a hindrance, it instead actually gives a couple of great thumb/finger places w/o causing digit pain that thinner spines can sometimes inflict.

I always gush about this knife to anyone who's interested since I believe it is vastly better than it appears on paper in the specs...
 
I always gush about this knife to anyone who's interested since I believe it is vastly better than it appears on paper in the specs...
There used to be a slogan for a local beer up my way that went along the lines, "Those who like it, like it a lot..." It seems to be fitting for the Techno as well, haha!

I know I'm a broken record when I post about this knife, but it really has been a game changer on how I judge other folders since buying it. It seems I have a compulsion to praise the knife whenever I read a thread that involves(or could involve) the Techno. Like you, I'm almost always inclined to think any negative reviews on the knife come from those whom haven't given it a chance, even though I know that is bordering on being dismissive to other members' experiences.

I think appreciating the knife really does come from using it either for an extended period of time, or from at least giving it the top spot in a user's rotation for a while before coming to a conclusion about it.
 
EDIT: One other thing...out of a year of using both extensively and much obsessive opening and closing...the untreated Sage 2 lock-bar has moved slightly from new at approx. 30/35% to around 40%...The treated Techno's lock-bar is the same as the day I got it! Something to consider when buying, and more importantly...using...a Ti frame-lock.

How is the Techno treated? As I own one, but I just figured I'll buy a new one of it wears.
 
I know I'm a broken record when I post about this knife, but it really has been a game changer on how I judge other folders since buying it. It seems I have a compulsion to praise the knife whenever I read a thread that involves(or could involve) the Techno. Like you, I'm almost always inclined to think any negative reviews on the knife come from those whom haven't given it a chance, even though I know that is bordering on being dismissive to other members' experiences.

I think appreciating the knife really does come from using it either for an extended period of time, or from at least giving it the top spot in a user's rotation for a while before coming to a conclusion about it.

Your posts were the reason I started researching, and eventually acquiring the Techno. Thank you.

How is the Techno treated? As I own one, but I just figured I'll buy a new one of it wears.

Heat hardened, according to Brad Southard, like the Southard flipper and CRK Sebenzas.
 
How is the Techno treated? As I own one, but I just figured I'll buy a new one of it wears.

As I understand it the Techno lock-bar face is either heat treated or carbodized. Spyderco doesn't state in the specs and I've never dissembled mine, so I can't be sure but I've seen other forum/review posts w/dissembled knife pics showing a somewhat brown color on the face presumably from treatment.
 
I would have to say the sage. The techno is an awesome knife with an amazing build and I find myself wanting to like it so bad. Hell, I DO like it. I like everything about it until I actually hold it. But every time I pick one up I realize the ergos are just all wrong for my grip. Thats not a knock on the knife. There are other knives that fit my hand perfect that others find uncomfortable. I wish it was different because it's a super cool little knife.
 
I wish they'd move my annual salary adjustment two years in advance. I'm no where near to collecting titanium equal to that of a small country. ummm... maybe 50 pounds will do.
 
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