titanium or g-10 handles?

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I'm checking the kershaw wild wild turkey on their website, and im confused! Check this out:

"Teflon-coated bushings. Choice of computer-machined, bead-blasted titanium or G-10 epoxy-laminated handles. Ti-handles offer super lightweight and corrosion resistance. G-10 handles are 40% lighter than aluminum. Removable pocket clip included. Handle-Titanium,"

ti-handles is supper lightweight!
g-10 handels are 40% ligher than aluminum! but what does that mean? is it lighter than titanium?

and then they sum it up with "handle-titanium" ?!

What's the differences with titanium and g-10?
Which one is prefered?

Thanks! *confused*
 
G10 is basically a high-strength lightweight polymer.
Titanium is basically in between steel and aluminum in terms of hardness, and is extremely light weight.

For whatever it's worth both are impervious to weather conditions. And they are similar in weight (not really sure which is heavier).

I'd imagine the summation of "handle-titanium" means that the particular page you were looking at specifically referred to the titanium handled version.

As to the particulars of the model itself, I couldn't tell ya, never handled or even researched the Kershaw "Wild Turkey" knives - they just don't interest me - good luck with your research.
 
It has been my understanding that ounce for ounce, aluminum is lighter than titanium. So, G-10 will be 40% lighter than aluminum. The weight difference is becoming evident. Ti is stronger than aluminum and G-10 is very resilliant, but probably is stronger in different ways that metals. I personally like the grippy nature and strength to weight ratio that G-10 provides.
 
So which one would you guys choose? The wild wild turkey in g-10 (black handle and 1,75oz) or the one in titanium (grey/silver handle and 2.5oz) ?
 
Since both weigh next to nil, it's just a matter of personal preference.

G10 is my favorite handle material, and as such i'd have to vouch for the G10 in terms of comfort, but the Ti version looks a bit nicer IMO :)

it's up to you, i'm sure both are great.
 
Wire edge said:
It has been my understanding that ounce for ounce, aluminum is lighter than titanium.
Click to expand...

Now, THAT is something I would like to see! ;) I suspect that ounce for ounce, they are the same!

There is a good place to go on-line for information of this type. It is Mat Web, which has information on about 24,000 different materials.
http://www.matweb.com/searchindex.htm

A quick perusal of Al alloys reveals a density of around 2.72 g/cc, and an ultimate tensile strength of 20,000 to 30,000 psi.

The same perusal of Ti alloys shows densities of around 4.4 g/cc to 5.0g/cc and ultimate tensile strengths between 150,000 to 180,000 psi.

Thus, Ti alloys are about twice as heavy as Al alloys, but 6 to 7 times stronger. These are very general statements, as there are a LOT of Al and Ti alloys, with different heat treatments as well.

There is also a general rule of thumb which states that you have to make a part twice as big if you are making it out of Ti alloy rather than steel, and you wish the strength to be the same. Check out the Jan '99 issue of Sword Forum, and click on the 'Titanium, Miracle Metal?' article. http://swordforum.com/jan99/main.html

Hope this helps, Walt

PS: any time you have a choice between G-10 and Ti, choose the Ti, unless electrical insulation is a consideration. Ti ROCKS!
 
"PS: any time you have a choice between G-10 and Ti, choose the Ti, unless electrical insulation is a consideration. Ti ROCKS!"

thanks for the post, but could you tell me the reasons why I should pick Ti? why does it "rock" ? :)

i haven't came across any info on Ti.

from what i've understand so far is that the g-10 model will be a little bit lighter (1,7oz instead of 2,5oz) it's not much, but still lighter is better. and i've read that g-10 got a really good grip, especially if your hands are wet.

so far all i know in favor of Ti is it looks slightly better :)
 
I would go with the one with the G-10 scales if you are going to USE the knife, as under some conditions, Ti is too darn slippery. Titanium also shows scratches more than the G-10.
 
Yeah g-10 seems to be the best choice, i try to find threads discussing the difference between different handle materials but it's very hard to find any... but I can't help but wonder why for example the Sebenza has a handle in titanium and not some other type of material... I'd like to know more why a certain type of material is used, the reasons for it and why the end user would choose one type of handle material over another.
 
In the Seby the titaniam is used in the intregal lock. It will flex way, way, way more times that steel and especialy aluminum with no loss in strenth. Titainum also "sticks" to the steel blade better than a steel liner lock making it a sounder choice for secure lockup. G-10 while being grippier would not make a sound choice for an integral frame lock. I don't find titanium that slippery but G-10 is definatly grippier and lighter.
 
When Walt said that Ti Rocks, he was expressing his preference based on just "cool" factor. Both Ti and G-10 will be plenty strong for an EDC. Walt just likes Ti better, so he would choose that one. I would prefer a Ti handle too, just because Ti rocks! Well, I liek the material and if I scratch it, I have the gear and the know how to fix that. Plus I could get it annodized :)

the Ti. might be more slipperier. And it may scratch more asily (I'm not sire, I just suspect.) I can tell you though that I had a Benchmade Sentinel which had aluminum handles and I had a CRKT M-16 with aluminum handles, and I LOVE aluminum. Tittanium too. These handle materials dunction the way I need, and so to decide between them you just have to go with the wow factor.
 
I'd always pick G10 on an EDC folder.., the gripping dynamics are just better. Nothing against Ti....great stuff..., just my preference.


"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
I'd always pick G10 on an EDC folder.., the gripping dynamics are just better. Nothing against Ti....great stuff..., just my preference.


"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
Hmmmm..how did I do that...lol...Oh well...


"Hunters sek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
Let me offer some input from a SOG perspective. Our SOG Vision has Titanium handles while our Night Vision has G-10 handles (find this knives HERE). Otherwise, they are exactly the same in construction and materials. The SOG Vision weighs 4oz., while the Night Vision weighs 3.25oz....so the weight advantage goes to the G-10 model.

Both are highly durable, so there is no advantage either way, except to say that the Titanium does scuff a bit easier if it comes in contact with abrasives.

Both are aesthetically pleasing, though the Night Vision has textured handles, aiding in gripping.
 
I have a lot of tactical folders that I think are at the apex of the game - Strider, Crawford, Carson etc. But, NOTHING approaches the love I have for my Mission MPF-1, which is PURE titanium. Its feel, its balance, its grip, its lightness..... I could go on and on. And yes, titanium does scratch, but it also HEALS itself over time. You may have seen a lot of discussion on the forums regarding boron carbide as a black coating. There is an article about it in "Blade". Well, BC is an unbelievably tough coating and it works best on titanium. Mission is looking into it deeply with BC's manufacturer, Bodycote. Titanium and BC - a marriage made in Heaven. And yes, titanium does have a 45 Rockwell, but it is much easier to sharpen to hair shaving sharpness and it will hold a sharp edge for a very long time (although probably not shaving sharp). Most importantly, it is virtually indestructible. After the Apocalypse, all that will be left are the cockroaches and the Mission knives. And by the way, their sheath knives have Hytrel handles, which I think is superior to everything. Look at Mission Knives' website for a lot of good articles about the use of titanium in knives.
 
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