To fold or not to fold...

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It's unbelievable how hard a life long habit is to break. Except for my time in the army, I spent my whole life in and around the Washington D.C./Maryland suburban area. Habits formed based on what was legal in the Peoples Republik Of Maryland sometimes was, to put it bluntly, nuts. Like knives.

It was legal to carry an Opinel number 12 or a very large navaja with a 6 inch blade, as long as it was not a "switch blade" under Maryland law. Maryland was very strict with any knife with a spring activated blade. But, and here's the complete nuts part, a tiny Buck Hartsook was illegal to have on a pocket as was ANY fixed blade knife concealed. But...that four letter word again, you could hang a Bowie knife from your belt and be completely legal as long a it was completely open to view.

When I was an inmate of Maryland, I liked the idea of the un=folding pocket knife and even carried a small custom for a while. But after a narrow escape from arrest from a very zealous police officer, only diverted by my son being a police officer that out ranked him, I gave it away on this very forum.

But...that little word again, now I'm living in Texas, and it's taken a full two years to slowly relax from the Marylandistan paranoia and realize that the laws here are far more relaxed. Being an old fart with arthritic fingers, I've found myself very sloooowly wearing a small fixed blade on my belt. My old and well worn Buck 102 woodsman is a pretty regular passenger on my belt since I spend a lot of time fishing the San Gabrial river. On a hot Texas summer day it's fine to have a folding chair in a shady spot, a line in the water, a few cold ones in the Little Oscar cooler, and a loaded Peterson 314 on deck. The Buck woodsman cuts bait, cleans fish, and its easier to clean than a folding knife. I guess I've been using it like the old guys down on the Maryland eastern shore used their little Finn's.

At first I was careful to take it off before walking into the post office or Walmart. But I'd forget now and then and at first I'd kind of semi panic and think "Holly Crap, I forgot to take my knife off." But a strange thing happened. Mostly nobody even noticed. Then once in a while I see someone else carrying a small fixed blade. An old very weathered Schrade sharp finger, another Buck, and once in a while a local custom on a hip. So, to take advantage of my standing as a venerated old fart, I just started to keep the Buck 102 on my hip more and more.

I'd forgotten just how handy it was to take out knife, cut, put knife back in sheath. No opening, no folding up, just use. Way easier for old stiff fumble fingers to deal with. The knife is way easier to clean up after a messy job, just wash and wipe off and sheath. No joints to oil or hidden areas to worry about. I just may have to pick up a small puuko for edc carry. Or hunt the great bay and get an old Case little finn. I think Matt Rankin and Bill Harding would approve.
 
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I too favor a small fixed blade, I have a safe full of them....
I daily carry a Vic Classic and Case yeller Peanut, but on non work days.... often will add one from my stable of small fixed blades. Often times it is a yellow micarta handled BRKT Mini Canadian, because I LOVE the handle material, and it's a dang good big small knife.
 
If you carry the 102 on your hip openly in plain view, why didn't you do that in Maryland? Doing so there was perfectly legal as well.
 
I’d carry a fixed blade on my belt every day if possible and eschew folders altogether. However that would mean ending a lifelong friendship with SAKs and scout patterns that I am unwilling to entertain :). So I compromise and carry a pocket sized fixed blade every day, and a scout or SAK to keep it company.
 
I have always preferred fixed blade knives, but I lack the testicular fortitude to wear one among the earth people. I've done it at times and I feel like I'm under scrutiny. Maybe I'm approaching the age when nobody cares what the old phart is doing.
 
If you carry the 102 on your hip openly in plain view, why didn't you do that in Maryland? Doing so there was perfectly legal as well.

There's legal then there's legal. Too many cops thinking they are the guys on TV, who don't even know the law as well as they should, stopping you and grilling you why you have a 'Bowie knife' on your hip. D.C area police were a PITA if you gave them half a chance for them to exercise their ego's. Just because it was legal, didn't mean you were not going to get a hassle. Just wasn't worth it.

I had one young cop accost me while I was getting a cup of coffee at a 7-11. Just standing there putting a lid on my coffee and got a "Sir, why are you carrying a sheath knife on your belt?" Then I have to explain to him it's legal. He doesn't believe me and has to look it up on his computer in his car. Meanwhile I'm not free to go until he is ready to admit he's made a mistake. I had better things to do with what time I have on this earth than to explain to some young wannabe Joe Friday that I'm not going to make a good bust.

Texas has a whole different mentality.
 
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Especially after reading other people’s horror stories, I am glad to be here with you in Texas! Even more so in a small town like mine, a lot of people here carry a knife. I see a variety of belt sheaths with the usual Buck 110s and Case trappers, an occasional fixed blade like you mention, and of course plenty of modern knife pocket clips.
What part of Texas do you live in now J jackknife ?
 
Especially after reading other people’s horror stories, I am glad to be here with you in Texas! Even more so in a small town like mine, a lot of people here carry a knife. I see a variety of belt sheaths with the usual Buck 110s and Case trappers, an occasional fixed blade like you mention, and of course plenty of modern knife pocket clips.
What part of Texas do you live in now J jackknife ?

In Georgetown, about 30 miles north of Austin. Big enough town that it feels city like, but small enough to still have that small town personal feel to it. Nice people, edge of hill country, and nice river and lake fishing. Most of all, a really great coffee shop with hand baked cinnamon buns, and three gun shops to choose from.

But I have to go all the way down to Austin for a good Irish bar with Guinness on draft and good corned beef.
 
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In oklahoma we can carry any knife we want, concealed or unconcealed. In tulsa you may get some looks, but it's not much of an issue. I don't personally carry a fixed blade often unless I'm in the woods but it's nice to live in a place where there's not a restriction and the common mentality is not hostile about such a trivial thing.
 
A small fixed knife has a lot of obvious virtues. This tiny puukko shown with a 3.5" GEC 15 can just about be put on the belt, the pouch sheath is nice and tight, but I carry it in a pocket. Could be clipped onto a belt or pocket with wire too. Handy, to say the least!

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There's legal then there's legal. Too many cops thinking they are the guys on TV, who don't even know the law as well as they should, stopping you and grilling you why you have a 'Bowie knife' on your hip. D.C area police were a PITA if you gave them half a chance for them to exercise their ego's. Just because it was legal, didn't mean you were not going to get a hassle. Just wasn't worth it.

I had one young cop accost me while I was getting a cup of coffee at a 7-11. Just standing there putting a lid on my coffee and got a "Sir, why are you carrying a sheath knife on your belt?" Then I have to explain to him it's legal. He doesn't believe me and has to look it up on his computer in his car. Meanwhile I'm not free to go until he is ready to admit he's made a mistake. I had better things to do with what time I have on this earth than to explain to some young wannabe Joe Friday that I'm not going to make a good bust.

Texas has a whole different mentality.
This mentality aka mind set is a problem about everywhere,alot of cops do not know about current laws.
 
It's a process. I've been toying with carrying my 102 in a cross draw sheath these last few months, or my Case Finn or Kabar. I feel a little funny out in public with them exposed like that, although I've never gotten a comment from anyone. It is easier to draw and use, then put away discreetly than pulling and handling a small pocket knife. I don't use or carry any one-handers. Like anything else I suppose, you get comfortable with a given situation the more you engage in it. I think the key to remember here is, if it's legal and you act responsibly, you are not likely to have an issue. I think a gentleman with snow on the roof and an image of seniority can probably pass scrutiny from the general civilian population. As I pass the 55 year old mark and find that my fingers are stiffening up and I fumble about with my small pocket knives, that Little Finn sure is appealing to me. I need a small pocket sheath.......
 
I carry a fixed blade from time to time. No problems here. I like having a small stout knife that I can use for rougher task and even food. If it's in kydex I usually carry IWB for convenience I'm not worried about it being seen but I've had issue with an exposed sheath catch on something when squatting down. Most of the time the fixed blade I carry is smaller than the steak knife at the restaurant. I've gotten compliments from the wait staff on my knives while eating steak. I think how you carry yourself has a lot to do with it. Of course like you said some people just don't know the law they're enforcing. Had that happen once while open carrying a pistol. I complied and was on my way in 10 minutes. After they ran my ID and all that fun stuff. He told me "I just found out this was legal a few weeks ago." Lucky me. Outside were 3 other cops waiting for me in case things didn't go so well.

Cops aren't lawyers and lawyers aren't cops.
 
I carry my Dozier Personal in my pocket. I live in Md. (for now) and didn't think it was illegal. The blade is only slightly longer than 2 inches. I guess I will have to be more careful.
 
What is a Case "little finn" ? (also trapped here in Maryland)

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What's a little finn?????

A Case little finn is a very old timey traditional fixed blade back before they were called fixed blades, a name I abhor. Since a sheath knife is not broken, it does not need to be fixed. A Case little finn or any little finn made by Western, Kaybar, Boker or Case, is a small sheath knife with a stacked leather washer handle with a birdseed aluminum pommel, and a 3 inch or so slim pointy little blade. Some were a little smaller, a few a little bigger, but about the size of an open pocket knife. Overall a slim little sheath knife that weighed no more than a same size pocket knife. Maybe the most popular era was the late 1930's to 1960 or so. Sometimes, they were packed in a dual sheath with a small hatchet that had the same handle set up. Very desirable collectors items now.

They were a light weight little knife that could do a wide range of jobs ranging from field dressing a deer to gutting a catch of pan fish to campfire side whittling.
 
Louisiana doesn't seem to care about knives being carried, really. I think the only knife law currently on the books is that you can't conceal a knife with a blade over 5". I don't think I have a pair of pants with a big enough pocket to conceal a 5"+ blade. :confused: I've gotten into the habit of pocket carrying a small fixed blade (<7") to work for lunch/apple duty. Belt carry has never really appealed to me, but I do have one fixed blade sheath with a pocket clip that I use from time to time.

I've never been hassled, and I've never been given a pat down, thankfully. I do know that sporting events and government buildings that I've been to have turned me around at the door because of my lowly Case Peanut, though.

I think 90% of my collection is smaller than your typical, cheap, OHO tactical knife that is so readily seen clipped to pockets; so I don't imagine I would get much grief. Maybe when I get older and my hands force me to give up my beloved small knives, I'll just start totin around a bunch of small fixed blades. :D
 
He told me "I just found out this was legal a few weeks ago." Lucky me. Outside were 3 other cops waiting for me in case things didn't go so well.

Cops aren't lawyers and lawyers aren't cops.

If he found out a few weeks ago it was legal, why the #**# was he even questioning you then????

Yet another fine example of total exercise of ego for no reason.
 
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