To lanyard or not to lanyard...

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That is the question.

I don't know why, but I find even at this age, I still have the occasional epiphany. The old light bulb still goes off, although bit dimmed by time. This time it was the question of the lanyard.

For most of my life, the two knives that have been my most carried and used, have been the SAK and the stockman. I got into SAK's as an offshoot of my boy scout days and the ubiquitous scout knife. Later in the army and duty with the combat engineers, I carried the issue Camillus 'demo' knife that they handed out like lollypops at the doctors office. It had a real bail like the scout knife, and I kept a dummy cord of O.D. green para cord on it to keep it from being lost in action. But the lanyard often got in the way, and most guys in my unit just made a nifty little belt pouch sheath from the green nylon webbing that was around. No lanyard to get in the way when using the screw driver/bottle opener or awl. They just took a single piece of webbing and stitched up the open top sheath with a belt loop on it. The sheath was deep enough to swallow almost the whole knife and you just squeezed the bottom fit to make the knife push up to expose enough to pull put.

Later I got a Buck 301 stockman. Like most stockmen, there was no lanyard hole and I didn't miss it. I kept the knife in my top right shirt pocket of my fatigues and it stayed there. Later out of the army I just dropped it on my right hand jeans pocket. I ended up using that knife for the next 25 years as my EDC knife for every occasion. Fishing, woods rambling, opening packages, whatever. I used the ever lovin dog poo out of it and it took it all in stride. But what was weird was, I never missed having a lanyard on the stockman, and when I went through the Barlow stage and then the sodbuster stage, I never had one on any of them either. But if I had a SAK on me, it had to have a lanyard on it or I felt something was wrong.

Growing up in age where the traditional knife reigned king of pocket knives, I never saw a lanyard on any pocket knife that was not a military bring back from the service. The small one and two blade jackknives and pen knives with the cracked ice handle scales had no lanyard on them and the men that carried them just dropped them down in the pocket with no thought of it. Later in the army, when every swinging Richard had a Buck 110 in the black belt pouch, no lanyards were in sight. Buck thought it not needed, so it wasn't. It didn't seem to affect the popularity of the big lock blade among service men, construction workers, Outlaw bikers, and hippy cults.

Yesterday I had to replace some master bedroom closet hardware. The plastic mounting cups for wood rods that clothes were hung from were distorting and cracking. They were light duty things with a single wood screw in the center holding them up. I replaced them with all metal ones that had three screws around the outer edge. Making starter holes for the wood screws, I used my old Wenger SI awl to bore a starter hole. Like always I had to remove the lanyard as it kept wrapping around the awl in an annoying way. After I was done, I didn't put the lanyard back on the knife.

I thought about how I never really used the lanyard for anything, and mostly the lanyard got in the way. I thought about how in all the years I used the stockman and Barlow patterns that I never had a lanyard. And didn't miss them. I still am a fan of the Buck 301 and 303, and still carry one often.

A goodly part of my life in years past has been in Maryland and out on small boats in the Chesapeake Bay, Potomac river and various lakes. On a small boat a lanyard may be a nice thing. But on dry land, it just seems to get in the way. Now living in the semi arid hill country of Texas, I don't see any canoes or kayaks in my near future, so there will be no more lanyards. I've become lanyard free in my old age.

I see some customs come through with a nice brass lined lanyard hole, and I wonder if others find it a unused feature of their knife?
 
Good thread idea.
I'm a lanyard man all the way-- on single-ended knives.
it allows me to carry a larger knife vertically in the pocket whereas a sheath would likely be required. Traditional knives don't have pocket clips and a lanyard keeps things vertical and discrete.

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Two knife patterns that I don't carry but would it they had holes are the Buck 110 and Case Trapper. I don't or can't wear a sheath at work for instance, but could carry a 110 discreetly in the pocket with a lanyard.

I also like the option of decorating knives by using a bead.
So I wish more manufacturers included lanyard holes. If ya don't want one, just leave it free.
 
If I was in a situation where I was concerned enough about loss (say in a boat) I might think about a lanyard. Otherwise, in 72 years I have never used one. Quite frankly, I dislike the lanyard holes in fixed blade knives for aesthetic reasons. I wonder if Bob Loveless is the fellow who really launched that infernal device in popularity?
 
That is the question.

I don't know why, but I find even at this age, I still have the occasional epiphany. The old light bulb still goes off, although bit dimmed by time. This time it was the question of the lanyard.

For most of my life, the two knives that have been my most carried and used, have been the SAK and the stockman. I got into SAK's as an offshoot of my boy scout days and the ubiquitous scout knife. Later in the army and duty with the combat engineers, I carried the issue Camillus 'demo' knife that they handed out like lollypops at the doctors office. It had a real bail like the scout knife, and I kept a dummy cord of O.D. green para cord on it to keep it from being lost in action. But the lanyard often got in the way, and most guys in my unit just made a nifty little belt pouch sheath from the green nylon webbing that was around. No lanyard to get in the way when using the screw driver/bottle opener or awl. They just took a single piece of webbing and stitched up the open top sheath with a belt loop on it. The sheath was deep enough to swallow almost the whole knife and you just squeezed the bottom fit to make the knife push up to expose enough to pull put.

Later I got a Buck 301 stockman. Like most stockmen, there was no lanyard hole and I didn't miss it. I kept the knife in my top right shirt pocket of my fatigues and it stayed there. Later out of the army I just dropped it on my right hand jeans pocket. I ended up using that knife for the next 25 years as my EDC knife for every occasion. Fishing, woods rambling, opening packages, whatever. I used the ever lovin dog poo out of it and it took it all in stride. But what was weird was, I never missed having a lanyard on the stockman, and when I went through the Barlow stage and then the sodbuster stage, I never had one on any of them either. But if I had a SAK on me, it had to have a lanyard on it or I felt something was wrong.

Growing up in age where the traditional knife reigned king of pocket knives, I never saw a lanyard on any pocket knife that was not a military bring back from the service. The small one and two blade jackknives and pen knives with the cracked ice handle scales had no lanyard on them and the men that carried them just dropped them down in the pocket with no thought of it. Later in the army, when every swinging Richard had a Buck 110 in the black belt pouch, no lanyards were in sight. Buck thought it not needed, so it wasn't. It didn't seem to affect the popularity of the big lock blade among service men, construction workers, Outlaw bikers, and hippy cults.

Yesterday I had to replace some master bedroom closet hardware. The plastic mounting cups for wood rods that clothes were hung from were distorting and cracking. They were light duty things with a single wood screw in the center holding them up. I replaced them with all metal ones that had three screws around the outer edge. Making starter holes for the wood screws, I used my old Wenger SI awl to bore a starter hole. Like always I had to remove the lanyard as it kept wrapping around the awl in an annoying way. After I was done, I didn't put the lanyard back on the knife.

I thought about how I never really used the lanyard for anything, and mostly the lanyard got in the way. I thought about how in all the years I used the stockman and Barlow patterns that I never had a lanyard. And didn't miss them. I still am a fan of the Buck 301 and 303, and still carry one often.

A goodly part of my life in years past has been in Maryland and out on small boats in the Chesapeake Bay, Potomac river and various lakes. On a small boat a lanyard may be a nice thing. But on dry land, it just seems to get in the way. Now living in the semi arid hill country of Texas, I don't see any canoes or kayaks in my near future, so there will be no more lanyards. I've become lanyard free in my old age.

I see some customs come through with a nice brass lined lanyard hole, and I wonder if others find it a unused feature of their knife?
Absolutely. I have never used, or wanted to use, a lanyard on a knife. Or a keychain ring. I like the way some of the lanyards look, but they would get in my way.
 
Good thread idea.
I'm a lanyard man all the way-- on single-ended knives.
it allows me to carry a larger knife vertically in the pocket whereas a sheath would likely be required. Traditional knives don't have pocket clips and a lanyard keeps things vertical and discrete.

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Two knife patterns that I don't carry but would it they had holes are the Buck 110 and Case Trapper. I don't or can't wear a sheath at work for instance, but could carry a 110 discreetly in the pocket with a lanyard.

I also like the option of decorating knives by using a bead.
So I wish more manufacturers included lanyard holes. If ya don't want one, just leave it free.
Love that knife, and I get your argument, but I prefer just dropping the knife in my pocket. I also often carry a trapper in a belt sheath (sometimes in my pocket, but if it's on my belt I can carry another knife in my pocket). And I really want a Buck 110. Will only carry that on a belt sheath--too big and heavy for the pocket.
 
I used a belt loop with a clip on my Cub Scout knife as a kid. Why, because it was there I guess. But we would also let them just dangle outside our pockets sometimes. I used some parachute cord on my Victorinox Small Tinker in the Marines so I wouldn’t loose it. And you’re right about getting twisted around the knife doing certain tasks being a pain.

Recently I picked up a package of the little stainless pocket clips and the spring loaded clips. I fashioned a few up together, some with some colored para-cord, and some without. I’ll use them on my SAK’s wearing certain pants or shorts. Mainly while fishing but have found it a useful way to carry two knives in the same pocket while keeping them separated. The clips have made it simple to detach them so the lanyard doesn’t get in the way. I guess they’re really not necessary but gives me an option.
 
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Yes, the lovely navaja :)
I got @ArtesaniaHerreros to add a lanyard hole.

You might wanna try carrying a 4 inch-plus folder loose in the pocket, then clipped to your belt/loop vertically.
It's much more comfortable vertically.
I think that's why the large, modern flipper-folders all come with pocket clips.
Your lanyard looks good on your beautiful navaja, but just not for me. My navaja is just over 4 inches, but rests comfortably in the bottom of my pocket. Hardly know it's there. I would notice a trapper just because it weighs twice as much.
When I was a child, I carried my scout knife loose in my pocket. Just always been my preference.
 
When you have a nice aesthetic knife with good scales, why go and drill some eyesore hole through it and spoil everything?;) Lanyard holes might be a newer innovation on the Traditional scene..but I suspect they appeal to closet one hand openers and the PC (pocket clip...:p) brigade:rolleyes: I find them particularly pointless on small knife. On a pocket-knife why have it attached to something and then have to fiddle with it or remove the thing before using the knife?;) Some might say the work of the devil :D I'd agree:thumbsup::D No, no, no thank you!
 
Your lanyard looks good on your beautiful navaja, but just not for me. My navaja is just over 4 inches, but rests comfortably in the bottom of my pocket. Hardly know it's there. I would notice a trapper just because it weighs twice as much.
When I was a child, I carried my scout knife loose in my pocket. Just always been my preference.
Yeah, yeah... It appears to be another one of those personal choices on knives, like carbon or stainless, etc.
I'm interested to see how this thread develops.
Maybe the OP should add a poll.
 
I mostly carry scout knives with bails, and tend to put fobs in all of them. My fobs tend to be shorter, thinner and lighter than most people’s, so they don’t really get in the way much.

The fob goes on the knife. The knife goes into the pouch. The pouch dangles from my belt loop into my pocket. The fob sticks out of the pocket. When I need the knife, I just pull on the fob.

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When I’m playing out in the wild, my knife always goes on a real lanyard. One end of the lanyard is tethered to a belt loop. The other end clips to the bail on my knife, and dangles into my pocket. There’s no way my knife is getting lost, and the lanyard makes it really easy to draw my knife. I can even make cuts close to me without ever having to unclip the knife from the lanyard.

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If a fob feels like it’s getting in the way when using an awl, try pressing the fob against then backspring so your hand covers it. If the fob is thin enough, you’ll hardly even notice it.
 
Every time I get a new folder I add a lanyard. Helps with pocket extraction, helps get a better grip on smaller or awkward shaped handles. It also gets in the way every time I want to deploy or close the knife so soon after adding them, I wind up taking them back off. Only knives I consistently keep them on is larger slip joints were quick open and close is not a thing so they never get in the way.
 
My thinking is it depends on how and what I’m using it for. I certainly think it’s a good idea to have a lanyard to place over the wrist when working overhead and danger of dropping it. Or when you are working around nasty sticky stuff and don’t want to dig into your pocket to retrieve it. Or if you don’t like pocket clips because they tend to scratch things you rub against or snagging and losing your knife. I don’t always use a lanyard but when I do there’s a good reason why.
 
When you have a nice aesthetic knife with good scales, why go and drill some eyesore hole through it and spoil everything?;) Lanyard holes might be a newer innovation on the Traditional scene..but I suspect they appeal to closet one hand openers and the PC (pocket clip...:p) brigade:rolleyes:

Not so new Will. This old Remington has a lanyard hole.

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I own very few slip joints with a lanyard hole and I'm not sure I'd put a lanyard on them anyway. Any slip joint I carry that is 4" or larger, or multi blades on the heavier side, go in a horizontal belt pouch.
I do use short lanyards (maybe not meeting the strict definition of lanyard) on many of my sheath knives, especially the smaller ones. The lanyard actually lengthens the handle on small knives, helping my grip and aids in pulling them from the sheath.
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I use a SAK chain lanyard with my knives that have bails. (Scout/Camp/"Demo", Marlin Spikes, etc.). The lanyard has swivels at each end, so it's twisting around the knife or tool in use has never been an issue for me.
The lanyard is long enough to cover my reach, so I've never had to unclip it when using the knife or one of the tools.

For the rest of my folding knives I just drop them in my right front pocket. (Excluding the Buck 110's and 112; they ride on my belt.)
A couple of my pocket knives have a lanyard hole, but I've never used it, not even for a fob.
 
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When you have a nice aesthetic knife with good scales, why go and drill some eyesore hole through it and spoil everything?;) Lanyard holes might be a newer innovation on the Traditional scene..but I suspect they appeal to closet one hand openers and the PC (pocket clip...:p) brigade:rolleyes: I find them particularly pointless on small knife. On a pocket-knife why have it attached to something and then have to fiddle with it or remove the thing before using the knife?;) Some might say the work of the devil :D I'd agree:thumbsup::D No, no, no thank you!
No they aren’t a new trend even on old knives. I’ve seen knives from back in the 1920s that had lanyard holes and or bails. Mostly the ones I’ve seen were railroad/ shipyard workers knives with lanyard and fobs. I don’t know for sure but it seems the Industrial Age is when form and functionality became quite popular and progressive. Back then some specialty shops made all kinds of new and functional gadgets maybe just because they could. My grandpa born in 1889 wrote in a letter after going to a worlds fair around 1910 that he saw all kinds of newfangled gadgets and gear he never dreamed of. Kinda like an early day shot show.
 
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