I have been eying an RD Hawk from Ranger knives lately, and it is on the long term "to get" list. I was wondering though if anyone had modified a Norse Hawk or other for a similar task. I know Cold Steel Hawks are somewhat cheap and frowned upon, but how would I go about making one into a decent escape axe. The Trail Hawk has a very short edge, so one of the wider ones maybe, thoughts?
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Tomahawk as Egress Tool
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Actually the CS hawks are pretty good and most on these forums like them, especially the rifleman hawk I have used this one for many years.
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That is a great set up Magnussen, awesome leather work. I really like the fire kit. I need to pickup one of those char containers to finish off mine.
If by "egress tool" you mean to escape a crashed aircraft or otherwise extract yourself from some sort of metal hull, a 'hawk is not what you want. I have tested this out myself at the company I work for, and through experience, and this was the best tool we found.
http://www.gemtor.com/other.htm
Any regular axe type of tool would penetrate the skin and act as a hook on the other side, delaying retrieval. The Biel Tool was horrible about this. Believe me, lost seconds can cost you your life in that situation. I've seen the results when a pilot couldn't get out in time. Believe it or not, the airforce survival knife is pretty effective on the thin skins and stringers of a light aircraft.
Anyhow, sorry to ramble if this isn't what you wanted.
http://www.gemtor.com/other.htm
Any regular axe type of tool would penetrate the skin and act as a hook on the other side, delaying retrieval. The Biel Tool was horrible about this. Believe me, lost seconds can cost you your life in that situation. I've seen the results when a pilot couldn't get out in time. Believe it or not, the airforce survival knife is pretty effective on the thin skins and stringers of a light aircraft.
Anyhow, sorry to ramble if this isn't what you wanted.
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If you are talking egress from at building, none will work well. They are just too small. Get a set of irons, they will get through anything (halligen and a flathead axe). You really want to get serious of going through walls add a sledge.
On a side note:
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Magnussen's work is top of the line. I would highly recommend him to anyone.
On a side note:
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Magnussen's work is top of the line. I would highly recommend him to anyone.
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Not a thing wrong with any of the CS hawks. Great bang for the buck.
Here is a Norse that I modded
Here is a Norse that I modded
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GG&G BattleHawk might be what you want.
Not as good as a hooligan tool or large sledge but easier to carry.
Not as good as a hooligan tool or large sledge but easier to carry.
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It makes perfect sense that a hawk would get caught up while trying to extract it... those Gemtor things that Bushman14 linked to would perform much better. I would imagine something with a spike for initial penetration and a blade for cutting... it would need to be rounded across the top to use as a rocker for levering (like a nail puller)
yup.... something like that Gemtor model D42...
Rick
Ps. Thanks for the nice compliment Adrenjunky.... I hope it serves you well!
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yup.... something like that Gemtor model D42...
Rick
Ps. Thanks for the nice compliment Adrenjunky.... I hope it serves you well!
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If you are talking egress from at building, none will work well. They are just too small. Get a set of irons, they will get through anything (halligen and a flathead axe). You really want to get serious of going through walls add a sledge.
On a side note:
:thumbup:
Magnussen's work is top of the line. I would highly recommend him to anyone.
i thought that was a Vector001 hawk?
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It is a Vec hawk, Bushman... He was picturing one thing (his hawk... I made the sheath) and talking about another (irons)... you kinda got to understand how AJ thinks to follow his posts sometimes.... lol... Just kidding AJ... love ya buddy!
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It is, the sheath is by Magnussen, which is what I was thrying to show.
Irons is what we use in fire fighting, the two together can get you out of just about anything.
TOPs has a new "fireman's backup" ax that you might want to take a look at. I also carry a Swamprat axe/hawk that works well, the pry bar on the bottom puts it above the rest IMHO, for egress.
Smash05? What do you plan to escape out of? Vehicle? Building? What are the situations you are imagining?
If you've got the $$, it's hard to beat a Buster tool, Pry Axe, or a Biel tool from Paratech. Check them out here: http://www.paratech-inc.com/#/Forcible Entry Tools/Personal/
Sportsman's Guide currently has a small fire-type ax:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=414715
I have one similar to that one offered by the Sportsman's Guide. It is a solid tool, but I haven't found a need for it yet. Here it is with other tools:
The 18" pry bar in the second pic is the item that I take along whenever we go on road trips. It is sturdy and easy to pack. It can be used to pry open a locked door, window, or punch through a hotel room wall.
I recently picked up a smaller Stanley Fu Bar on clearance. This tool will come in handy when I finish a room in our basement this summer. It also has some appeal as a escape tool, although it is far from ideal:
And finally, for the budget-minded self rescuer, the Dead On Annihilator may fit the bill. Personally, I would have preferred the tool if they swapped the point and prying implements around:
Have fun! Let us know what you get!
If you've got the $$, it's hard to beat a Buster tool, Pry Axe, or a Biel tool from Paratech. Check them out here: http://www.paratech-inc.com/#/Forcible Entry Tools/Personal/
Sportsman's Guide currently has a small fire-type ax:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=414715
I have one similar to that one offered by the Sportsman's Guide. It is a solid tool, but I haven't found a need for it yet. Here it is with other tools:
The 18" pry bar in the second pic is the item that I take along whenever we go on road trips. It is sturdy and easy to pack. It can be used to pry open a locked door, window, or punch through a hotel room wall.
I recently picked up a smaller Stanley Fu Bar on clearance. This tool will come in handy when I finish a room in our basement this summer. It also has some appeal as a escape tool, although it is far from ideal:
And finally, for the budget-minded self rescuer, the Dead On Annihilator may fit the bill. Personally, I would have preferred the tool if they swapped the point and prying implements around:
Have fun! Let us know what you get!
Well I want something small to keep in the closet in case of zombies! Actually its just a random thought that having a small axe or escape tool in the closet near the bed might be handy if my exits got blocked by trees or debris. Also looking for dual purpose stuff so I could justify it for camping in the like. As usual I am over thinking things.
I sort of wish that something similar to the Tac Tool was available. Ontario has the SP8, but here me on this. Something with a gas shut off and a blunt tip thick blade. Micarta Scales, maybe a pry edge on the end. Something with some weight to it, sharpened prybar etc.