Tomahawks at ABCNews.com

Retired Maj. Gen. William Nash = Typical general staff dickhead embedded on TV.

"Retired Army Maj. Gen. William Nash, an ABCNEWS military analyst, said the Army is not quick to add new items — and weight — to the list of gear that a soldier has to carry. Also, as a safety issue, commanders often have reservations about providing soldiers with untested items, or allowing them to carry one they purchased themselves.

"I've been in outfits where any private weapon — to include knives — were not permitted," Nash said. "But as the lethality of the weapon increases, the tolerance for its presence decreases. They become too unaccounted for."

Nash, who commanded the 1st Armored Division in Bosnia and was the commander of the 1st Brigade, 3rd Armored Division during Operation Desert Storm, offered a grim example. The first U.S. soldier to die in Bosnia was killed by a land mine. The soldier, who had no training in the handling of explosive ordnance, was experimenting with the mine using a Leatherman-style multitool.

"Now, if he hadn't had a Leatherman, he might have still screwed around with a mine. But it's that type of ad-hockery that commanders worry about," said Nash. "There's an ingrained discipline that comes with all of this that commanders don't want to lose."

As for testing a tomahawk against the entrenching tool, Nash remains skeptical.

"It's hard enough [to dig a fighting position] with an entrenching tool. The hatchet's a better hatchet than the entrenching tool is. But we didn't buy the entrenching tool for a hatchet. We bought it to dig holes."

Nash was not totally negative in his assessment. "Now ... at the same time, an innovative person comes up with something that may be useful, but it takes a long time for the Army to test it and get it in the field. That frustrates the soldier."
 
Nash, who commanded the 1st Armored Division in Bosnia and was the commander of the 1st Brigade, 3rd Armored Division during Operation Desert Storm, offered a grim example. The first U.S. soldier to die in Bosnia was killed by a land mine. The soldier, who had no training in the handling of explosive ordnance, was experimenting with the mine using a Leatherman-style multitool.

"Now, if he hadn't had a Leatherman, he might have still screwed around with a mine. But it's that type of ad-hockery that commanders worry about," said Nash. "There's an ingrained discipline that comes with all of this that commanders don't want to lose."


And this is the tool's fault??? Great. We have ex-generals "thinking" the same way the gun-banners do, and in public. The discipline (and respect for ordnance) wasn't there in the first place if this guy was monkeying around with the mine with no training and for no reason. Put the blame where it belongs. Very lame.

Sheese.

Ask this guy (in Armor like the ex-general)if he'd like a hawk, khukuri, or hatchet. (Or ask anybody in the crew if they wished the job could be done faster.):

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Lance Cpl. Shawn Hicks, of Kingman, Ariz. and tank crew member with 3rd Battalion, 4th
Marines Regiment, uses his knife to clear branches blocking the view out of his tank in
central Iraq on Friday.
 
That was a cool article, well most of it anyway.

"Don't you think this is kind of vicious"

Yup, specially if ya think in close quarter combat you have a bunch of guys holding hands, discussing there inner feelings with the enemy as they run a bayonet into there guts. Some people are uncomfortable with giving the Army weapons? That is a little ironic!

If I could drop a piece of kit it would probably be the standard issue bayonet. carrying it around and taking care of it for the one task it is intended for is wasted energy. I have seen guys use them as a cutting tool with poor results and the tips break if you pry even a little with them. I have been in the exact position as Lance Cpl Shawn Hicks and all the while was thinking "If only I had a Tomahawk this would go alot smoother. Now I have a hawk but it is made from an old horse rasp (it still has teeth) These tomahawks look even more usable. The sand in the area of Iraq is easy down to as little as a few inches to scrape away with a shovel, beneath that is hard packed sand that is concrete like. One of those spiked hawks would make short work of a shell scrape (fox hole)in those conditions.

Hmmm, I wonder if the wonderful General has ever tried digging a shell scrape thith an entrenching tool in anything tougher than a back yard sand box?!

Well done ATC & RMJ, Good luck and I hope The military sees the value of this fine tool


God bless America and all who defend her
 
"Don't you think this is kind of vicious"

Uh, yeah....

Like this isn't?

One "favorite of the Marine Corps" in the Mideast, according to an anonymous Pentagon spokesman, was the BLU-82, known as "Big Blue 82" or "Daisy Cutter." Last used in Vietnam by U.S. Special Forces for clearing helicopter landing sites, the 15,000-pound bomb is filled with an aqueous mixture of ammonium nitrate, aluminum powder, and polystyrene soap. It can only be launched from a cargo aircraft, the MC-130 Hercules, by rolling it out the rear cargo door. The bomb descends by parachute and detonates just above ground, producing blast overpressures of 1,000 pounds per square inch and disintegrating everything within hundreds of yards.

I must need one of those new "PC" dictionaries :rolleyes:
 
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