Tomahawks

shortwinger

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I am sure Cold Steel is aware of the popularity of their Tomahawks here on Blade Forums. The tomahawk forum has a "Mod'ing the CS Trail Hawk" sticky thread with 106 pages, over 2000 posts and some of the most incredible looking hawks you will ever see! After you hang around any forum for a while you begin to get a feel for what people like, what people hate and some of the things that would make products better. In the case of the Tomahawks it is really easy because there are some universal things that 99.9% of the people would like to see changed. And these are not unreasonable or expensive changes or random bitching.

1. Get rid of the set screw. The tomahawk is a friction tool and the ability to quickly take the head off the haft makes it such a versatile tool. Not only does the set screw get in the way of this versatility it also quickly begins to damage and weaken the wood around the head. Since almost everyone that actually uses their hawk and absolutely everyone that modifies their hawk removes the screw it would be a welcome change. Also, when people do remove the screw they have to fill in the hole so it ends up being a bit of work. this is an easy one because it has zero net gain keeping it and tons of benifit geting rid of it.

2. The black finish. This would probably be the most expensive change but even that would not be too much. Again, virtually everyone strips the black off and then either does a forced patina or a cold blue. Anything would be better than the black and once again, this is a universal modification. I can't remember a single post where someone actually preferred the black.

3. The edge. While most Cold Steel blades come scary sharp the hawk's edge isn't even axe sharp and sometimes looks like they completely forgot to sharpen it. For sure it shouldn't be fillet knife sharp but it should at the very least have a good working edge out of the box.

4. Handles. Having the set screw give CS the ability to use handles that, lets just say, don't fit well. That is being generous. They often come with the head rammed on in such a way that it produces a ridge that takes a lot of work to remove. The removal of the set screw and correctly fitting handles would take the CS Tomahawks up a good number of notches in quality and desirability.

The variety of hawks you offer is fantastic and I can only think of one or two additions to your lineup. I think an easy and popular addition would be a slightly larger Trail Hawk. Not as a replacement for the existing one but a big brother for those that like the Trail Hawk shape and hammer pole but want a slightly bigger cutting surface. The most popular complaint from the trail hawk comes from people thinking it is a bit too light. Personally I like it specifically because it is light and easy to carry or pack but, to each his own.

You don't hear too much about steel issues on the hawks and many of the handle complaints are from the set screw damage or breakages from throwing. And if you throw your hawk a lot you are going to break handles, period. So thats it, I think all these issues are easy to address. I hope others chime in with their suggestions.

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5. I had to add one other thing, the fit and finish on the eye could also some work. Many times there is considerable work to do in order to smooth out the metal inside the eye. For many customers that don't have a workshop or the proper tools this can end up being tons of work, if it ever gets done at all. In a factory setting, even a primitive one with the proper tools, cleaning this up can't take more than a minute or two. OK now I'm done...
 
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I agree with everything you've said the only thing I would like to add is a Spontoon Hawk with a weeping heart cutout. A hard to find pattern and I could definitely live without the coating but I do understand it's a cost thing have to coat them with something to prevent rust. Thanks for starting this thread shortwinger.
 
Coating? Meh. Easy to remove.

Edge? Meh. I take great pleasure in sharpening 'em myself.

Set screw? That's gotta go.


I give major kudos to Cold Steel for being the ONLY major manufacturer of tomahawks to provide them with longer handles.

For ya'll who like shorter handles, that's fine. A few minutes of work with a saw and you can cut it back as short as you like.

For those of us who prefer longer handles, we have to replace the entire handle.:mad:
 
Coating? Meh. Easy to remove.

Edge? Meh. I take great pleasure in sharpening 'em myself.

Set screw? That's gotta go.

I pretty much agree with Wolf here. The head looks better without the coating, but the coating in actually pretty effective at keeping rust off the blade. The edge could be better, but for the price I cannot complain. I can't think of a better way to get acquainted with your new blade than to sharpen it.
 
Just lose the set screw, and maybe fit the heads to the handle a little better. I love both my CS hawks.
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Maybe one of you steel guys can answer this. What would be the difference in cost if you had the raw head ready to be coated and did one with the black coating and the other being blued?
 
This is my first Trail Hawk mod. In the pics you can see some of the recommendations I brought up in the first post.

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Screw removed and hole filled in with JB Weld. The head was stripped, lightly sanded and cold blued but the weld spot still shows. Cleaning up the burrs in the eye took longer than cleaning up the rest of the head but now that it is smooth it doesn't scratch the haft.

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Edge needed a good deal of work.

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Handle was sanded and stained. I will apply a few more coats and then seal it. The handle took far more time repairing the damage done by the factory forcing the head on than it took to sand and refinish.

Overall it came out well but I wasn't going for anything fancy because this will be a user. I just wanted to protect from rust, get a better feeling and looking handle and get a working edge.

Edit: I added a mask/sheath made from buffalo leather.
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Just got my Trail Hawk yesterday. I really like except the head is loose on the handle even with the set screw. Without the screw, it doesn't stay on at all. Looks like the handle may be to small for the eye of the hawk head.

I agree though with most here, loose the set screw and have better fitting handles. As for the black finish, it doesn't bother me too much. It's ugly and I removed it one mine but it was easy to take off plus others might appreciate the finish for rust prevention. I also don't mind it not being sharpened as most axe manufactures I've seen don't sharpen their axes cause they like to give the customer the ability to sharpen the head themselves to suit their needs.
 
The handle to eye fit would be too involved a process for simple manufacturing, so I see it as the same as the edge, spend some time with it and get more familiar with your new toy.
But yes, completely do away with the set screw and the tapped hole, of course.
 
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