TOMORROW'S COLLECTIBLES

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Accepting the fact that today's collectibles will continue to be so in the future and accepting the fact that today's "Super Makers", (Loveless, Fisk, etc.)knives will continue to be highly collectible.

WHICH OF TODAY'S KNIVES DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE VALUED COLLECTIBLES 20,30 OR 40 YEARS FROM NOW?
 
I can name a knifmaker that will be highly collectible and you aren't going to have to wait that long. I like the work of Ricardo Velarde. He's a student of both Steve Johnson
and Dietmar Kressler. His work is of their quality. His prices are affordable starting at $300 for a small hunter. And you don't have to wait 4 years to get one or pay aftermarket prices. His work is fantastic.
I'm buying.
 
TomW, What is it about his work, other than the quality, that makes his knives collectible to you? Is it a classic style or that he has a completely new style? Clean lines, functional design?
 
You're pretty much right Jim. You can definately see the Loveless/Johnson
style in his work and also the Kressler influence on the integrals and interframes.
His work is flawless. Looking at a bolstered knife of his you can't tell it from an intergral. Thats pretty darn good.
It's my feeling that the fads in knives will come and go but the top quality makers of the classics will always be in demand.
Ricardos prices are reasonable starting at 300 for a small knife and reaching 1400 for a subhilt fighter. For knives of this quality in the current knife market that's pretty good.
I have some pics he sent me but don't know how to put them up. If anybody would like me to e-mail then for their own use or to post
i'll be happy to send them along.
 
Tom you sent some to me do you want me to post them?

ROGER>>>>>>WILCO! TOM
here's one,
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[This message has been edited by PhilL (edited 03-28-2000).]
 
Outstanding knives! What is his favorite(usual) steel to grind?

See that Stag PhilL? Huh,did ya,did ya Huh!
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On the bolstered knives he uses ATS34 blade and 416 bolsters on integrals and interframes
440c. If you can dig up a copy of the June99 Cutting Edge AG Russel has 5 nice Velarde knives on the cover my favorite if which is his classic loveless style boot knife with black micarta scales with thin red liners for $495
A beautiful knife for the money.
 
STAG??? Did you say, "STAG!" Don, ooh where, where, where?
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Seriously Folks!
I still consider myself to be a Newbie to the whole knife scene, and I doubt I’ve got twenty years left, so I’m trying to make up for lost time. The best way for me to do that is to listen to guys like Tom and Don, who have forgotten more about buying and collecting knives than I’ll ever know. I buy what I like and can afford, with reselling not as my main concern. I’ll leave the selling of my knives to my wife after I’m gone. I just hope I can make some wise choices so she doesn’t consider me too stupid.

I believe, thanks to BladeForums, that the interest in knives will continue to expand, and that benefits all of us. I’m glad Tom decided to share Velarde with the rest of you, I had the benefit of touring the ECCKS with Tom and really learned a bunch. Collecting the Masters isn’t an option for me because of price. Keying in on these Master-Student relationship is a very smart way to go. Velarde and Johnson, Denning and Herron, Audra Drapper and Ed Fowler are all worth the money, and excellent makers in their own right. I do hope that folks here understand that supporting custom makers is not only more satisfying, but should be a better long term investment. I prefer traditional, but I do admire the simple elegance of the more modern designs and anyone that can create something with their own hands. I can see more artistic talent in knives than you’ll find in most Art Galleries, and more design and technical innovations than you’ll find in most automobiles. Knives are fascinating in so many respects, it’s like an Onion (no not Ken) there are so many layers to it. That’s why focus is so important to me. I can’t buy it all, and I can’t know it all, it’s good to have friends to point you in the right direction, and advise you when they think you’re making a mistake. Focus, learn all you can, buy what you like, you may not be able to out perform a good Mutual Fund, but you’ll sure have a lot more fun.

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We have obviously seen an example of an excellent up and coming young maker. Thanks TomW and PhilL for the information and the pix.

Now let's take another look at the original thought. Todays collectibles are the prime custom makers and the classics like, Randall, Marbles, Remington, Case (Tested XX and XX) Ruana(the Rudies not the new ones), Original Winchesters, Etc.

Which knives being made today will join these as the highly sought after collectibles and classics of tomorrow.

I know I am probably going to get burned at the stake for this but sorry I don't think the tacticals are going to be there. I have nothing against them, I even carry 2 in my console and my wife carries one in her purse, but I don't think they will wind up being defined as one of the new classics.
 
TomW

I agree with you on the S&M and Robeson offerings by Queen. They are not reproductions but more like continuations of the originals with some modern steel. They are extremely well made and there aren't a blue zillion of them out there. The various blade configurations with wharncliff, shepsfoot, modified spear and clips, along with standard pens and clips are very nice.

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Will tactical be collectible?
Think about that one. Every thing becomes collectible in time even if just for simple nostalgic reasons. Think about this. Mint unused tacs will be rare. Think about what knives by Brend bring now. I'd put my money on othet things but the enormous popularity tacs have now might speak for how they are looked at in the future. Knife collecting is growing. I wouldn't say there is anything that will never be collectible.
 
I agree tacs will probably be collectible, I just don't think as a style of knife they will be a classic collectible as a whole. At least not in the same catagory as an original Marbles Trailmaker, or Remington RH-40 or original Remington Bullet. There will be exceptions of course based primarily on the makers reputation.

Heck Loveless could probably make a butter knife and sell if for 2 grand and have collectors lined up down the block to buy one. If he serialized it the guy who got #001 could probably walk to the back of the line and double his money.

Anyway how many black knives with black blades and combo edges can you have and not get bored. Now if they jazz them up a bit with color and exotic scales that might be a different story. Hummmm, maybe a maker needs to come up with a line called "Lady Tac". Gee I think we may have stumbled on to something here.
 
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