Too long in Dayton?

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I live in SE OH and am looking for any information as to carry length. ORC is rather vague (as is most states when it comes to knife laws) so I am looking for information pertaining specifically to the Dayton area. I currently carry a fixed blade at just under 4.5 in and have been told by a DOT Officer that it is "close", but even he couldn't state a definitive legal length.
 
He couldn't state a definitive length because he's a liar or an idiot. No disrespect to cops in general, but wearing a badge does not give you the right to make the law up as it suits you.

Dayton's Municipal code has the following to say:

Sec. 138.01. - Definitions
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Deadly weapon. Any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.
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Sec. 138.02. - Carrying concealed weapons
(A) No person shall knowingly carry or have, concealed on his person or concealed ready at hand, any deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance.
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(C) It is an affirmative defense to a charge under this section of carrying or having control of a weapon other than dangerous ordnance, that the actor was not otherwise prohibited by law from having the weapon, and that any of the following apply:
(1) The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for defensive purposes, while he was engaged in or was going to or from his lawful business or occupation, which business or occupation was of such character or was necessarily carried on in such manner or at such time or place as to render the actor particularly susceptible to criminal attack, such as would justify a prudent man in going armed;
(2) The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for defensive purposes, while has was engaged in a lawful activity, and had reasonable cause to fear a criminal attack upon himself or a member of his family or upon his home, such as would justify a prudent man in going armed;
(3) The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for any lawful purpose and while in his own home;
(4) The weapon was being transported in a motor vehicle for any lawful purpose, and was not on the actor's person, and, if the weapon was a firearm, was carried in compliance with the applicable requirements of § 138.05(C) of this title.

This is nearly a total copy-paste of the ORC, and equally vague and unhelpful. The bottom line is that open carry of nearly any knife is legal, while concealed carry is a complete crap-shoot based on the feelings and views of the police officer discovering it. The larger the knife, the more uncomfortable the cop is going to be with it, but it's still purely just a judgement call.
 
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I live in the Dayton area as well. I really wish the state as well as municipalities would declare what is and isn't allowed. I firmly believe that the knives I want to EDC are illegal, but when I go into the city, I like having a larger knife, and I would always prefer to have too much knife rather than not enough. From what I understand, it's completely up to the officer as to the legality of the blade unless local laws prevail.
 
"From what I understand, it's completely up to the officer as to the legality of the blade unless local laws prevail."

In terms of arrest and total pin-in-the-a**edness, yes. In terms of a judgment of guilt, no.
 
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