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quietone

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I briefly saw on CNN that over 40 Muslims have been killed in the U.S. since the attack last week. I believe that I have the same sentiments as the majority on the forum that we don't need to attack or harass the wrong ones. I do see blood right now, but this is ridiculous. Losing more innocent lives makes me sick.

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On another note- something else that has me more quiet than usual-
(I'm usually very quiet when I am really angry) is the news I heard on the radio this morning when a NYC cab driver was on the air, he was saying that there are more cabs driving around NYC right now with flags from other countries than our own. He was also saying that he took people to some areas of town where they were GLAD that it happened!

I am for free speech, but this, to me anyway, is a matter of courtesy and respect. I would not go visit another country and wave my flag around, especially if I went to make a living there. As for the ones who were celebrating, all I can say is that the planes landed in the wrong place.

A couple of you know who my quiet self is, also know that my wife is from another country. I respect her because when she decided to live here, and was granted citizenship, she took it to heart and devoted her loyalty to the USA. I feel that if anyone is to live here for a long amount of time, that his/her loyalty should be to this country.
Hard stance I take, but why? Because of respect for one group of very special people in our culture- the veterans.

Our veterans have shed too much blood and lost to many lives to make this country what it is today, and have protected much of the free world in the process. They paid the price in blood, and living here should not be taken for granted.

I realize that I have probably offended someone in the process of writing this, but it is a free speech forum and I have tried not to offend anyone, just giving my view through my angry eyes at the moment as peacefully as possible.

The only other thought I have had lately is WAR. I believe it is time for one, but I am proud of President Bush for not being hasty when all we wanted to do was go kill and bomb. I believe the president was truthful when he said this is going to be a long and complex war. I never thought in my lifetime, that I would really feel what our country felt when Pearl Harbor was bombed.
 
I've already posted my rant about idiots who are too ignorant to differentiate between an armed aggressor and an innocent person who is "different". Our gene pool is in need of a little filtration too, it seems.

One side of my family has been here since the hills. The other came from Europe. They have both had to accustome themselves to each other, as others who have come to be Americans have had to accustom themselves to "US". It has often been bloody, but it gets better even if in small sections and a little bit at a time.
 
I briefly saw on CNN that over 40 Muslims have been killed in the U.S. since the attack last week.
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Perhaps I am a little jaded. But, my first question would be, is this unusual, or just another example of manufactured news. The US is a big place, and for better or worse, people get killed every week. So is the media simply shifting through the # of people that get killed every week to pull together this number, or are the 40 Muslims an increment over the average number of Muslims that get killed every week? Keep in mind that the US has a significant Afro-American Muslim population and that Afro-Americans then to be over represented as a percentage of people killed.

Time will tell; don't let the media lead you to the wrong conclusion in an attempt to sensationalize their fantasy.

n2s
 
Originally posted by not2sharp
don't let the media lead you to the wrong conclusion in an attempt to sensationalize their fantasy.
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n2s,

Good point. That sounds exactly like something a lazy media researcher would do... just to have something new to report on the evening news.

Remember... don't believe everything you hear or read these days. I think it might be a little worse than usual.

Alan
 
N2S,
Excellent point, I think you are dumb like a fox.
Used to work in Public relations before my current job which is the best in the world (Except for Uncle Bill's. Only I couldn't handle that many khuk's.)
The media frequently puts a spin on things in interest of ratings. Remember too, that next to politicains, the media is the second most self important group out there, so they love to think they are smarter than the rest.
I am sure that many Islamic/Middle Eastern families have been unjust victims of a less than savory element of American Society. Hate crimes, unfortunatly go all the way back in Euro-American society. The first thing I said to Reyna, who is from Mexico, is I am afraid that America will hurt its own people in unjust hatred, and second, pack the LadySmith. Not because of terrorists, but those running the streets looking for someone with "foreign features" or dark complexion to make an example of. I lost a cousin in the WTC, but do not firebomb the nearest Mosque or the Byblos Cafe down the road.
Ever seen what a little Mexican girl can do with a can of pepper spray and a straight razor?
As usual, talking too musch and preaching to the wrong people.
SAR
 
One Muslims falling victim to a hate crime is too many. The people who commit serious hate crimes are no better than the criminals who attacked Americans. If those committing hate crimes were creative enough they would commit similar terrorist acts as the Trade Center bombing in foreign countires. Alas, they are not so bright.

I also feel that one American (or any person) falling victim to terrorism is too many.

Will
 
Would anyone care to explain something to me!These people living here are AMERICANS why treat them any diff.! Also why are people acting nuts, why let these cowards dictate how you are going to live ? I'm not! I'm still going out & enjoying myself!But you could get "killed",yep, sure can, I can also die in an auto accident. I also have a CCW so someone else can die too!Why live in fear from cowards?? Always felt that if it's your time ,it's your time!You people want to sit home,& be fearful,"go ahead", me ,I'm doing the same as always, just being a little more aware! Showing these cowards,1)they ain't going to scare me 2)they ain't going to win 3)they picked on AMERICANS,the "old"breed,their are STILL afew of us left,we don't like to be threatened,or cower. America has been peaceful But we have kicked A** in the past & can do so AGAIN!Maybe I'm too old but I repeat, please explain??
jim
 
I agree with you quietone.

Hate crimes are an evil byproduct of times like these.

I do NOT condone attacks against anyone because of their color,race, or religion. In fact I absolutely think it is below us as americans, and it reduces us to mere terrorists ourselves.

HOWEVER, you can't blame someone who gets into a fight with a foreigner who says "I'm glad it happened". I'm sorry but whoever(whether they are born and raised here, or just off the plane) says that to MY face might just get their teeth knocked out at the least. You don't provoke people that have been so visciously wronged like that and get to walk away. I think NOW if not a week ago, is the time for all foreigners in this country(and our own citizens!) to step up and support this country or get the !@!#$ out! At the very least don't do a disservice to all of your fellow foreigners(and fellow americans) by badmouthing this country in a time of hurt and war.

It is a shame that the words of a few fools cause innocent people to be hurt.

Please don't misconstrue this rant for a defense of hate crimes--it is not. I am merely expressing my rage and disbelief at those that can say things like the people quiteone spoke of, at a time like this. I am equally angered by some american citizens that I have seen on the news and on the radio that are criticizing Bush and our gov't.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE A BUNCH OF DIVIDED, BACKSTABBING, INDECISIVE FOOLS! THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, AND WHAT THEY EXPECT OF US.


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"It is a shame that the words of a few fools cause innocent people to be hurt."

I'd like to add "and actions".
 
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