TOPS Micro Hawk

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Was curious if any members have this model yet and can offer some hands-on commentary. Very small, very light, very concealable ... more like a multi-edged knife than a full blown tomahawk. Average retail price is ~ $125 ... looks intriguing as a H2H weapon. The product video I saw showed some decent chopping capabilities for what it is.

I found several 100% feedback dealers online with very tempting lower prices, but I'm concerned about rampant forgeries/fakes.
 
holy **** 125? for a "micro hawk"? i wouldnt pay that for a full size axe let alone a hawk. i'v never heard about fake hawks because, well, the fake axes are much more popular and expensive. i dont know. i wouldnt pay 125 for an axe shaped knife the size of a pocket knife
 
If you think of it as a pocket tool, then the pricing makes all kind of sense.
 
phantomknives said:
holy **** 125? for a "micro hawk"? i wouldnt pay that for a full size axe let alone a hawk. i'v never heard about fake hawks because, well, the fake axes are much more popular and expensive. i dont know. i wouldnt pay 125 for an axe shaped knife the size of a pocket knife
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Then you will never experience the quality of RMJ and Winkler, or any other high end manufacturer.

As far as fake hawks, they are as plentiful proportionately as fake knives ... even reputable dealers are not immune, thus my stated concern.

Micro hawks have a place in one's kit based on personal requirements and needs. As to price, it is a matter of one's perception re: bang for buck. A new Emerson folder is $200+ ... some think that is outlandish, others consider it par for the course. Different strokes ...
 
ok, what ever you want to spend your money on.

if i spend 125 on something it better be a sager or a black raven. They might be high quality but they cant compare to the old stuff. unlike knives, the good axes are old
 
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Looks like one of those cheapo axe-ish shaped throwing knives to me and I wouldn't even pay 20$ for it no matter who made it.
 
I would never buy one, I can get a alot of quality steel for that price to my door. That's half the price of the custom axe I'm looking at right now. I'd rather carry a small hatchet than that little knife thing.

I mean, if someone wants it, by all means get it. I'm all for people getting what they want, variety is the spice of life.
 
I am not convinced about its effectivness as a weapon. But we've all probably spent more on things that lay unused in some cellar or basement.

Other than that, I won't get into comparing apples and oranges :).
 
Moonw said:
I am not convinced about its effectivness as a weapon. But we've all probably spent more on things that lay unused in some cellar or basement.

Other than that, I won't get into comparing apples and oranges :).
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That's a very valid point. Is there anything to accurately compare this micro hawk to? The more I think about it, the more more I consider what knives and hawks I have spent $125 on ... it's starting to seem more gadgety than practical.

As to small hawks (something like a Jenny Wren or mini Wren) I found the Browning Black Label S&A ($65) and the Columbia River Rune ($95) which are much more affordable, and have better functionality than the TOPS Micro.
 
Moonw said:
I am not convinced about its effectivness as a weapon.
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It's a filipino martial artist who developed it, I think he knows what he was doing.
The mistake here is thinking about that thing as a tool for bushcraft when it was designed as weapon with some tool capabilities.
 
Derzelas said:
It's a filipino martial artist who developed it, I think he knows what he was doing.
The mistake here is thinking about that thing as a tool for bushcraft when it was designed as weapon with some tool capabilities.
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The real mistake is tops calling it a tomahawk.
 
Hickory n steel said:
The real mistake is tops calling it a tomahawk.
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I don't see it as mistake though, it has the shape of the tacticool hawk, right? If a tomahawk was defined as an axe-type bit mounted using slip-fit on a wood handle things were clear. But we live in an era where Marketing dictates meanings.
 
Derzelas said:
I don't see it as mistake though, it has the shape of the tacticool hawk, right? If a tomahawk was defined as an axe-type bit mounted using slip-fit on a wood handle things were clear. But we live in an era where Marketing dictates meanings.
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Well I've never seen a real tomahawk that looked like this so I wouldn't consider this a tomahawk.
 
The thing about all these "small" axes, is that it seems people sometimes forget how an axe actually works..and that is that a large % of its performance comes directly from the weight of its head, and the rest comes from momentum/speed. (handle length). well really its a combination of both to make momentum.
So I see these "micro hawks" and titanium axes and I cant help but face palm.

Then the full metal construction ones...man...if they had put all that steel into the head only and had a wooden handle..it would come out with a similar overall weight and 100% better performance.
im sorry but...."micro hawk"....do NOT approve.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Well I've never seen a real tomahawk that looked like this so I wouldn't consider this a tomahawk.
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What is "real" in today's marketing vocabulary? Lagana is a "real" tomahawk? Based on REAL from the historical past I will say no. But this starts to look like who's right and is pointless. There is a market for this tool - all the guys imagining they will slash/poke/stab another guy in self defence and want something cool.
 
Derzelas said:
It's a filipino martial artist who developed it, I think he knows what he was doing.
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Well, so many "martial artists" out there, it's kind of funny. How many of those have really put their skills to use outside of their dojo?

This guy may be legit, for all that I know. All I'm saying is that putting this or that tag on someone does not necessarily attribute them relevant experience. I'm just a "grain of salt" kind of guy when it comes to boastful claims.
 
Moonw said:
Well, so many "martial artists" out there, it's kind of funny. How many of those have really put their skills to use outside of their dojo?

This guy may be legit, for all that I know. All I'm saying is that putting this or that tag on someone does not necessarily attribute them relevant experience. I'm just a "grain of salt" kind of guy when it comes to boastful claims.
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And what was the claim? You doubted its martial application based on your experience.
"I doubt a giraffe exists because I never seen one." That's a boastful claim. Or "You can make sushi from your opponent with this tool". Both dead wrong without reading the little writing on the bottom of the page.

And to end this, I will say that "micro hawk" for me is useless. I don't intend to get in a fight and I hate the ergonomics of a skinny paracord wrapped handle for medium to long term use.
 
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i mostly have an issue with it because you can make it with an angle grinder and get it heat treated for less than 125.a 1 foot square of 1/8th inch 1075 is about 30 bucks on the internet. harbor freight angle grinder's 20 with disks and a blow torch is about 29 bucks. after that, just find some bricks. now, you'v saved 46 dollars and have a ton of left over steel to make what ever you want
 
technically you could say this about most naked tang knives but, you could hide this in you hand, and for 46 dollars less you could have multiple 11-12 inchers in any fashion you want
 
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