TOPS Tracker (vs. BK9)

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I recently found a used TOPS Tracker at a good price, so I decided to pick it up and beat the crap out of it. Now, most who know me know that I'm not a big fan of the WSK design in general, let alone the TOPS version of it. But frankly I was just bored! I've been playing with it this evening and compared it to my BK9 in a few regards.

Carving

It didn't fare too well. You know those really, really cheap hatchets you get from Lowe's or Wally-World? Trying to make a fuzz stick with the Tracker felt just like using one of those, just very labored. Similar imbalance, lack of comfort/control, and much too similar grind. It just wouldn't bite. I kid you not when I say that I could barely sharpen a stick! It just couldn't do it. If this knife were a samurai warrior, I feel certain it would commit ritual suicide due to this ineptness.

I'm also not a fan of finger grooves since they're necessarily selective for a certain hand width/finger thickness. This was a problem with the grooves on the Tracker when choking up for 'fine' work: it was forcing my fingers to spread apart in an uncomfortable position. Not cool. Thickness/circumference of the handle was fine however. Obviously, any Mora would have done this job quicker, smoother, and more comfortably.

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My BK9 was handy so I used it for a basis of comparison. Obviously a bit longer blade than the Tracker, but actually it weighs a good bit less (or at least certainly feels it). Here is a pic showing the different thicknesses and the results of fuzz sticks from each.

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Notching

I used the 'sawback' for notching on a couple of small sticks, as I'd use for a trap. As I've heard described before, it does more tearing and gnawing than actual sawing. The notch it made was thick and and pretty rough around the edges. Certainly you're not going to use it in the capacity you would, say, a SAK saw. Any Mora will make a much cleaner notch, much quicker. The BK9 did not compete at this part.

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Chopping

To the good stuff, eh! Put simply, the Tracker feels like an overgrown cleaver, but without the bite. It'll mash stuff but not really smoothly/cleanly. The 'sweet spot' on this felt like it was at the base of the chopping edge, just past the gut hook. Or put another way, the long curve at the end feels like wasted space (it's hard to chop and make it strike there, it means that you're striking your target at a level below the axis of your forearm). Versus the BK9, the Becker was the clear winner. Less fatigue, better accuracy, and deeper bites. Neither would win compared to a similarly sized khuk (like a 12" AK or something), and none of those would win versus a similarly sized hatchet of substantial quality.

Here's the result of about 30 seconds of chopping with each. The Tracker was hitting the right side, BK9 on the left. (Getting any objective measure of 'chopping power' is pretty hard when you're goofing around, and I don't care for the method I used. But hey, it's worth what ya paid for).

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The Gist

So overall? The Tracker is pretty much what I expected. It doesn't chop well (very certainly not better than a decent hatchet or long blade). With the current grind, it has (for most intents and purposes) no carving/slicing ability. It is a hatchet shaped like a knife. If it was sent to someone to be thinned out a bit and convexed, I might have a different opinion.

The 'chopping' edge is not placed at an angle that's really optimal for...anything.

The sawback is 'so-so' at best, a SAK saw would do a better job by far.

It's really heavy, it's bulky, it's not comfortable to use. It doesn't cut well (what else is a knife for???) or chop. For an answer to a "one knife" scenario something like a good 15" HI AK or the BK9 is a vastly better option/performer. For those who don't needlessly limit themselves to one blade, a GB wildlife (or Fiskars or Wetterlings, etc) plus a mora (or similar) is at the top of the list.
 
I agree Spooky. I bought one years ago on a friend's recommendation after he took several of Tom B's courses. We made fire boards and drills, struggling to shave anything. It chopped ok, but I have outchopped it with smaller, lighter blades. I sold mine.
 
I just don't understand that design. You can't put a SAK in 1 fixed blade knife (IMHO). I prefer something like a RD6 with a decent SAK.

I really like the work of Tom Brown Jr, but I won't get that knife. Even with a better grind (I've been told that TOPS grind wasn't too good on that knife).
 
Reprofiled, it's an OK knife. Not great, but not bad either. With the original grinds, it didn't impress me much.

ETA: The design appeals to me for some reason, and I really like the looks of both Mark Terrell's and Tim Horan's versions of it.
 
If it was sent to someone to be thinned out a bit and convexed, I might have a different opinion.

Good move in giving Pitdog a back door so as to make him not feel that deanimation was his next move ;)

But I did enjoy your ruminations!!! At one point in my weird little trip of knife oddysey I became fascinated with the 'bone crusher' edge on the Cold Steel oudoorsman. I've since come to my senses, that I don't need a 'bone crusher' on my knife and that even if I did, cold steel's engineering solution to a bone crusher is probably not as good as the Wildertool :D :D

Shoot....I shouldn't have said that...Now I want one of Rick's knives again..
 
The Beck Tracker is the knife that was responsible for me being introduced to custom knives in 1995, after the first TK magazine, which is responsible for my search for quality in knives. Man I wish that I had the $555 as a 17 year old looking what it is worth and scarcity today. Never saw the TOPS version in real life and have heard the responses :thumbdn: but still would like to see what it is like.

Would make a great giveaway though;)
 
I don't like the design, but I am sure with a convexed edge it would have did a little better.
 
Thanks for the review... IMHO the Tracker looks like a movie prop, but Ive never actually handled one, so getting some first hand info is always usefull :thumbup:

For a knife that's been designed to be the multi-use survival knife, the Tracker's real applications seem strangely limited.
 
Again a report confirming my suspicions. It doesn't cut very well, it doesn't chop very well and it doesn't saw very well. It strikes me as doing everything in its power to defeat the purpose of being made from metal. In fact, it leads me to suspect that if one stumbled across some Asian knock off made of rubbish and retailing for $4.00 one wouldn't actually be worse off unless one wanted to use it too as a blank to grind a proper knife from.
 
Again a report confirming my suspicions. It doesn't cut very well, it doesn't chop very well and it doesn't saw very well. It strikes me as doing everything in its power to defeat the purpose of being made from metal. In fact, it leads me to suspect that if one stumbled across some Asian knock off made of rubbish and retailing for $4.00 one wouldn't actually be worse off unless one wanted to use it too as a blank to grind a proper knife from.

Yup! And it's expensive to boot! We used to carry them at the shop (because people DID buy them) but eventually we realized the design was just too poorly executed for us to sell it in good conscience. We now carry RATs. :)
 
Yup! And it's expensive to boot! We used to carry them at the shop (because people DID buy them) but eventually we realized the design was just too poorly executed for us to sell it in good conscience. We now carry RATs. :)

Immediately I recall the RAT 7. I couldn't conceive of the performance as in the same ballpark. Same with most knives of a similar sort of ilk. As much as I get the motives for bagging one of these up in this case, some part of me is still quite surprised that Spooky bought one of these. My antipathy is dug in so much... :-)
 
sadly , i own a tom brown tracker . beat the shit outta it for 15 mins , has sit in the draw doing nuthing for 2 yrs now. don`t like the weight or the thick edge
 
Come on guys. I saw Benicio Del Toro throw one through a tree! What more do you want?!?!
 
Immediately I recall the RAT 7. I couldn't conceive of the performance as in the same ballpark. Same with most knives of a similar sort of ilk. As much as I get the motives for bagging one of these up in this case, some part of me is still quite surprised that Spooky bought one of these. My antipathy is dug in so much... :-)

Haha, think of it as a science experiment.
 
Come on guys. I saw Benicio Del Toro throw one through a tree! What more do you want?!?!

You mean when that knife made a full spin, then totally stopped spinning for the end of its trajectory.

Yeah, it takes a hell of a knife to defy Physics ;)
 
Gonna send this one off for a reprofiling and possibly to have the second finger groove removed, then I can report back again. That ought to round out the science project aspect nicely!
 
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