Tops US combat or Blackjack model 7

Well I wouldnt recommend abusing your knife so I wont comment about what I think will hold up best. A simple description of the tasks you intend to use this blade for will be helpful. It really comes down to personal preference.
 
I like both, not sure how 1095 compares A2 for strength and how this factors into the different tangs (one exposed, one hidden).

I have land that I hike on, camp on, hunt on, 4-wheel on, etc...want something that can handle anything I need it to do. Clear a path, dig, pry, chop, just don't know what I'm liable to run into.
 
I would go with tops. It's a true full tang which I personally prefer. It also seems like you might want a combat/utility knife. I feel that the tops is a little more suited for rough use.
 
From what I see, I'd go with the BlackJack

- No serrations
- Better steel
- It looks like it's also full tang ("complete through-tang")

- However, I do think the handle on the TOPS is probably better.
 
Since I don't own a Tops knife, I can't comment on that particular knife. I assume they are made of 1095 carbon steel ("carbon steel") which is a very tough steel for woods use. ESEE and Kabar Beckers are cut from the same vein with full tangs and so forth. These are tough hard use knives.

The Blackjack 1-7 is sort of a fighting knife. I own one and I think it can handle most things you might want to use it for and I like A2 steel. My favorite Blackjack is the 125. I wouldn't pound on either of these knives, but that is me, but I feel confident that you can do some light batonning with one.
 
I´ve got the TOPS knife. Love it. I alternate between this and a leuku for a big woods knife. Sheath sucks though. The knife is easy to sharpen and keeps sharp for a long time. I accidentally glanced off of a rock whilst chopping some kindling but the edge didn´t chip or anything. :thumbup: It is nice and stabby as well. :D
 
Well, this is a tough one. In reality neither would be my choice and I'll get to what that would be in a moment. First what I like and don't about each.

I love the classic look of the BlackJack. The A2 I have from Bark River is great. Holds an Edge a bit longer than 1095. In my experience it was tough to keep the exposed tang on the handle of my Bravo 2 from speckling with rust. I had to sand it off every once and a while. Got tired of that so I forced a patina on the tang and it is now very rust resistant. I have a Bravo 1 in A2 with a forced patina and have no issues with rust. I don't like the fact that the BlackJack is not a true full length/width tang. It is probably fine but for a true hard use knife I like a full length/width exposed tang. For a hard use knife I am not a fan of stacked leather. I want Micarta, g10, FRN, or even Kraton, basically something impervious to the elements. The sheath is an issue for me as well. I would want Kydex or molded plastic so I would need to add that cost to the cost of the knife ($60-$70). Again, think impervious to the elements.

The Tops has the full width/length exposed tang. This is a big deal to me in a hard use knife. The handle is a durable micarta. Blade shape looks good but I do not like the serrations. The blade is coated so rust will be no worry but only on the blade edge. If you are using it, the rust won't stay long or damage the blade. The sheath looks okay, but again, I would need to replace it with a kydex one as many of those nylon sheaths aren't fitted to the knife that well. So that would add cost to the knife for me.

If you made me choose between the two, it would be the TOPs because in a hard work knife I need full width/length exposed tang, and better handle material. I have not held either knife so I cannot say anything to the in hand use or ergonomics. I am just going off what I see on paper and in pictures. Another thing is the cross guard on both might get in the way for woods work opposed to tactical/utility stuff. Both have it though so it is a wash.

Both knives are no doubt very good. That said neither is what I would have considered for the roll you describe. I would look at something from the Becker line or from Esee. In my Med-large knife roll I currently have an Esee 6 or a Bravo 2 in use. I would consider both better than the knives you have listed and for the reasons I said above. Do note that I did need to have a custom Kydex sheath made for the Bravo 2. I bought it used off the exchange so the cost of the sheath was somewhat off set. If I had it all to do over again when picking a knife in the 6"-7" range I would look for something in 3v. It is at the cutting edge of carbon steels right now (IMO and with pun intended). Bark River offers most of their knives in that material so maybe look there. Survive! is also a company that does a lot of 3v.

All this said, I just got my grail fixed blade. A Busse TGLB! Good luck on your search. I hope any of what I said here was helpful.
 
Looks like TOPS will be what I'll go for, 1/4" thick, should be a beast, like a big brother to my BK2. I've always admired the TOPS US combat but the Blackjack is quite nice as well.

Someday I will have to get my holy grail too, the Team Gemini LB but the cost can't justified right now.

Thanks everyone for the input and advice.
 
The TOPS is probably a tougher knife. The Blackjack is a classic design, pretty much a copy of the Randall design, and is pretty nice if you are interested in those qualities. To play it safe you should probably buy both of them.
 
I'd be concerned about the weight of the TOPS (17.5 oz). Those big quarter-inch thick knives are heavy. I recently got the TOPS Wild Pig Hunter, which is similarly sized, and at 14.2 oz it was just too heavy in the hand for my taste. The Blackjack comes in at 10.0 oz. I have one in the stacked leather and it has a nice heft without being too much. Just something to consider.
 
I used a Blackjack Model 5 (same as the 1-7 but 2" shorter) for a few months and it performed great. I used it for camp chores and EDC stuff, and it held up fine to batoning and other "pushing it" tasks. It really surprised me, and taught me that I don't need a full tang, I just liked the idea of it. A properly designed and built (differentially heat treated) hidden tang knife can be plenty strong. The biggest advantage of a hidden tang is that it keeps weight down. The Blackjack weights half a pound less than the Tops (8 oz vs 17.5 oz) which is a ridiculous amount of weight that is totally unnecessary unless you're literally using your knife as a prybar.
 
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