Torx screw just turns

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I got a Cold Steel Arc-Angel and started to switch the handles as described at Balisong Collector. Here's the problem...I got it started turning just fine, but it appears that the "rivet" part the screw goes into turns with the screw. I managed to loosen it up a bit with about a hundred turns, but now I have one handle looser than the other, and can't loosen or tighen any more. How do I keep the rivet part from turning so I can either extract or tighten the screw? I've tried pushing the rivet down hard on a piece of rubber while turning, hoping to get more friction on the rivet head. I've thought of heating it to expand the rivet, but figured the screw would expand the same. Help!!
 
I don't know if this will work, but it does involve duct tape. Try putting a piece of duct tape over the rivet, literally taping it in place. This may hold it well enough so you could remove the screw.

good luck.

ric
 
Ric,

Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried it, and no luck, even pressing the knife down on a pad hard to try and keep the tape in place. The torque is too much though and it still just spins. Now I'm getting some black residue, I guess from the "rivet" base turning against the TI handles -- so, microscopic metal particles??

I wonder if applying superglue from the back side will fill around the rivet, or torx base. If I do that, will I end up gluing the torx base into the handle and won't be able to remove it with a punch? Is there someway to get rid of the superglue afterwards without ruining the finish of the handle (aren't you supposed to use nail polish remover to get rid of superglue)?

Bruce
 
Ric,

Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried it, and no luck, even pressing the knife down on a pad hard to try and keep the tape in place. The torque is too much though and it still just spins. Now I'm getting some black residue, I guess from the "rivet" base turning against the TI handles -- so, microscopic metal particles??

I wonder if applying superglue from the back side will fill around the rivet, or torx base. If I do that, will I end up gluing the torx base into the handle and won't be able to remove it with a punch? Is there someway to get rid of the superglue afterwards without ruining the finish of the handle (aren't you supposed to use nail polish remover to get rid of superglue)?

Bruce

How about trying some Loc-Tite before going to the super glue? It would probably be easier to clean off. The blue stuff is weaker than the red.

As a last resort you could file or Dremel a slot into the rivet so you could use a screwdriver to hold it in place - but that means it would be ruined and you would need a replacement to reassemble it.
 
So, if I put Loc-tite around the ferrule (rivet), will it seep down between the ferrule and the handle? Assuming it does, and I let it dry 24 hours, and it works...how do I get the blue stuff out of the handle?

Also, by turning the screw as much as I have been (trying to get it loose), I now see some black residue coming out from around the ferrule. Is this metal filings caused by the ferrule turning against the Ti handles (if so, that means I'm widening the hole, worsening the problem, right?), or is it just some graphite dust they put in there as a lubricant?

I did try supergluing a metal rod to the ferrule, and holding on to that while turning the screw, but the torque just broke the glue. Now, I have some ugly superglue residue on the knife. How do I remove that without ruining the finish or the metal?
 
Latch the knife in the open position, the pressure on the pivots should hold them in place to loosen them. It worked for my Arc Angel.

DO NOT put loctite anywhere near the outside of the pivot!!!!!!!! It will get into the washers and lock up the knife!!!!!!! Loctite is meant for the inside of the pivot only!!!!

Try using acetone (found in nail polish remover) to remove the superglue, if that doesn't work try wet/dry sandpaper to sand it off and then polish it out.
 
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