Tractors?

RattlerXX

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Not too long ago I purchased a one owner John Deere 820 Mannheim, and it has really been taken care of. I'm going to be using this one for light duty on the ranch, and I'm about to purchase a new one. I'm not really needing a cab tractor, and I'm thinking maybe a 65-70hp in either a John Deere, Ford, or Massey. What are your suggestions, and why?

Thanks!
 
Did you say you were planning on getting some hay equipment? If so, you'll want to decide on new or used and plan for that. The main baler New Holland is building right now is the 575 and I think the minimum recommended horsepower is 80. The farm I work for bought one last year and it would make a 1085 massey chug like crazy (I think its like 82 HP). There are smaller ones on the market from other companies though, think John Deere makes some. And of course there are a million used ones out there that will run forever.
You'll also want to look at gears and speed. If you've got people loading the wagons rather than using a stacker or something you want to be able to control your speed pretty well and that means gears since you've got to run the engine at PTO speed. So you'll want a pretty slow first gear, and 2nd shouldn't be too much higher.
Other than that I don't have a whole lot of preference. I've run most of them in some form or another and there are things I like and dislike about them all. Internationals (at least all the ones I've run) have a torque amplifier you can kick back and forth from low to high while moving. It effects your speed and engine braking which is nice for baling because you can flip it back and forth instead of stopping to shift gears.
John Deere's are nice, I'm not a real fan of the new sync shuttle transmissions, but the ones I've driven were used for groundskeeping at the county fairgrounds and get the **** beat out of them and run without enough oil or hydraulic fluid or anything. So its hard to tell, the one definitely needs a new clutch.
Masseys-The only one I've run is the 1085 the farm has. It has about the same features as the internationals they have. It seems to have a lot of reliability issues. In the time I've worked for them it had the steering column seize up, a water pump go out, a starter go out which ended up meaning the flywheel needed ground (means splitting the tractor in half) and some other stuff. They take really good care of it too, most of their tractors are over 20 years old and look new in the cab and run like new as well.
I've seen quite a few older Masseys out there that run great and have been around a long time.
Haven't done enough with fords to say anything about them.

Can also tell you that Kubota puts out a very good tractor. Their M series actually costs less for what you get than the smaller L series, and is way less than the tiny little B series tractors. I think they have them up to 90HP. Have never known anyone to have a problem or compaint with a Kubota.
 
RattlerXX said:
What are your suggestions, and why?

Thanks!

It us unusual to have more than one or two quality dealerships in a given area. Go with the dealership that will take care of you. Parts, service etc. Just my two cents.
 
What dealer support do you have? Where I grew up, we had to drive to another state to get Massey parts. Granted, it was only a 180 miles but, that gets old real fast. The one thing I noticed about the Massey's relative to the John Deere's was the fuel consumption difference. The Massey's sipped fuel sparingly.

How much money do you have budgeted and what do you really want to use the tractor for? I'm guessing you want something in the 90 to 110HP range so you have the power you need to run round balers and have enough mass to use a front end loader with a lot of dirt in the bucket or a heavy bale on the stinger. Now add a few other things like post hole diggers and general farm implements and the value of a larger tractor (mass and foot print of the tires) becomes more obvious. How big is too big for you (phyically - weight, height, width, etc.)?
 
Thanks for the replies guys. We do have a John Deere, Massey, Kubota, and Ford dealerships that are pretty close to this area, so I'm going to take off Monday to go tractor shopping. I'll let yall know what I find.

Thanks,

RattlerXX
 
I've pretty much set my mind on a Deere, and I'm going to look at a few more in the next few days, so I'll decide soon. I'm trying to take my time and get the one that I really want.
 
Good luck with whichever you end up liking... We've got a 1700 series ford that hasnt let us down yet... but its 22 horsepower if I remember correctly. A little on the small side for what your doing :D
 
I'm finally getting around posting a pic of what I purchased. I bought a new Massey cab tractor, and BH cutter.

Here she is! Aint she purdy? ;)
 
Very Nice :cool:
Good Choice, despite the trouble I told you about with the one Massey, I still think they're good tractors. That one I've run seems to be the exception, seen lots of other good ones.

What kind of horsepower does that big girl have? Is it a Perkins motor? Turbo?
Cab tractor is definitely the way to go on one that size. You can always open the windows and have fresh air, but you can close her up and shut out the noise whenever you want. Seems like about 5 hours at a stretch is all I can handle on a 50HP+ open tractor before I get a headache, add in loud equipment like a baler or mower and its even worse. Plus you get airconditioning/heat!

Is that a 10ft Bush Hog? The hitch looks like its identical to one I used at my last job. 10 ft wide, dual cutters with a hydraulic lift and trailing PTO so you can mow tight corners and stuff. Does a hell of a job and built like an M1 tank. They seem to have a pretty high blade speed because we were using it largely like a finish mower and it did a hell of a job. Greasing the PTO is about as much of a bitch as possible with all those U-joints :grumpy:
 
Thanks Matt! She has a 70hp at the PTO with a Perkins dsl, and she runs great. I've never been in the AC while on a tractor. I still spend lots of time on my 820 when I'm cutting in the back meadow, and around the creeks. I did get an upgraded Kenwood CD player installed with Kenwood speakers.

The Bush Hog is new as well, and its a 10' with duals just like you described. I believe its a 3210 if I'm not mistaken, and its rated for a 100hp tractor. It cuts very nice. It won't be long and I'll break down and buy a front end loader. Thats a MUST!
 
I just bought a 70 HP McCormick this summer and really like it. I had made up my mind to get a Kubota until I happened to take a look at the McCormick, a much heavier built tractor in the same price range. A local dealer didn't hurt either. The McCormick is the old Case/International, has a Perkins engine. The John Deere's were just out of my price range.
 
Sweet!
Good thinking on the speakers and radio, you'll get a lot more out of that upgrade than most would think.
I'm not a real fan of AC in a tractor if I have to get in and out. If your baling hay and have to switch off driving and loading it will just about kill you. But if your going to be shut in there hoggin' for awhile you might as well be comfortable :D

3210 is the exact same BH I was talking about, couldn't remember the model number yesterday. If the tractor has a slow enough reverse and you can see well enough you can really get close to stuff with that type of hitch, just back in. I'm still amazed by how nice it mows too, I know the blades on the one I was running were ****ed up cause of all the cinderblocks and rocks and stuff scattered around the fields I was working in, still cut great. If I was on good flat, open ground I wouldn't even bother with a finishing mower.
 
Matt Shade said:
I wouldn't even bother with a finishing mower.

I totally agree with that. I can't believe how nice, pretty, and smooth this hawg cuts.


H.L.,

I noticed a McCormick being delivered down the road from me a few days ago. It was a nice looking tractor. What cutter are you using?
 
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