Traditional first knife.

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I can never forget the heady experiance of getting my first pocket knife. It was more than a treasure that I had been yerning for, but its a vote of confidence from the man who gives it to you. A statement of trust in you not to do anything foolish with it.

I will always remember the day at the little store where my grandad got me a Imperial barlow. In the two years I would carry it, untill dad gave me a scout knife, it was my treasure, but also my learning tool. I had to learn to sharpen it, take care of it, and most of all not loose it. I don't know how often I practiced honing the thin carbon blades, but I got pretty good at it. The barlow was shaving sharp for most of the time I had it. Especially that last year.

By the time I was 12 and dad gave me the scout knife, I already had proven myself to him and grandad, so I was given a nicer knife. That I treated that knife with respect and good maintance, is proven by my younger son Matt, carrrying that same knife over a half century later. It's a bit worn, but still in good shape.

I suppose that a first knife for a young boy should be a smaller version of what his dad was carrying, or a small knife of not great value since it is going to be a learning experiance. The odds are it will get lost, used hard and sharpened alot, and some mistakes will be made. Mistakes resulting in either loss or damage to a knife. I recall reading that is how Dwight D. Eisenhower got to be a fan of the equel end small pen knife. As a boy, Ike was dirt poor and spending money was in short supply. Down at the local hardware store in Abilene the cheaper knives were the smaller knives on the display. Buying a small economical knife left more money for .22 ammo to put rabbit and squirrel on the table. And small game does not require a large knife.

Children learn by observing thier elders, and kids are pretty sharp. The see and learn more than we give them credit for. I don't know how many times I'd watch dad or Uncle Paul fix something in a handy way using a small pocket knife. Like the one time mentioned themostat gasket cut from the bottom of a cardboard Kleenex box, or Uncle paul using a bit of leather from an old belt for a washer. It made an impression that a pocket knife was a handy tool a man carried for life's little emergencys.

It's funny, but back then I don't remember any anti-knife feelings around. A man was expected to have a pocket knife, a handkerchief, and a watch. I recall one old timer of the liers circle that held it's meetings on the front porch of the Jenkin's store. He used to say you could tell what kind a person a man was by his pocket knife. If it had a broken blade he was careless. If it was rusty or dull, he was lazy. If he did not have a knife, he was no account, and really looked down on. The men of the liers circle set a great store by a pocket knife. Most of then carried a modest size knife, a 3 1/4 serpintine jack here, a 3 3/8 barlow there. Matt Rankin had a 3 1/4 serpintine that he used for most cutting chores, including slicing a piece of the hard chedder off the big wedge on the store counter. His Ka-bar little finn he always had on his hip was for game, leagal or otherwise. Being a profesional poacher, it was usually otherwise. A stockman was often sighted, as was other patterns. It seemed to be mostly personal bias that led to a choice of pocket knife. Most all agreed was that you had to have one. It was one of very few things the members of the Jenkins Store liers circle could agree on. All other subjects were open to very lively debate, that may or may not involve gunfire. Matt Rankin was allways resentfull of the bullet hole in his truck.

Sooner or later, we as fathers, uncles, or grandads, have the opportunity to give a young lad his first knife. You know by this point they have been watching like a hawk everytine we've pulled out our knife for something. Being that the presentation of the pocket knife is such a vote of confidence in our young one, its important to give the right kind of knife. Maybe even instead of a new one, make it ne of your own. By this time, hopefully, you and he have spent some time examining the knives in your cigar box that you've accumulated in your life. All are important, and giving one from your cigar box is in some cases even better than a new one from a store. Even better still, let him pick one. It's surprising how the young man in question will already have an idea of what he wants.

I remember the hardware store when I was a kid, it was one of those dusty places with a creaky wood floor, and smelled of mineral spirits and paint. They had nails and nuts and bolts in bins, and you scooped out your own and weighted it and marked the brown bag with the black greese pen there by the scale. Nobody checked you, it was an honnor system. They had this big display case of Case knives. There I would stand with my nose almost pressed against the glass staring in wonder at all the beautifull pocket knives. There was stockmen, jacks, peanuts and barlows. In the center was the bigger folders like elephants toenails, and sheepsfoot bladed sea scouts and whalers. Tuxedo's and little pen knives, toothpicks and daddy barlows. There seemed to be as many different handle materials as knife patterns. There was wood, plain and jigged, bone also plain and jigged exept for the barlow which was saw cut, and stag. A few pearl in the small pen knives. It seemed to be a treasure trove of pocket knives, and I wondered at all the different patterns. It was almost too much for a boy to take in at one time.

Unfortunatly alot of those old patterns are gone from the stores. But its still a thrill to give a young boy his first pocket knife, be it from a store or one of your own. It's almost as good as reliving it yourself. Now all we need is a bench by the courthouse or town park.
 
Thanks for sharing, now let's go find that park bench and whittle some toothpicks.
James
 
When the time comes, I'll offer my daughter my SAK Huntsman that I got when I was twelve, unless she wants to pick out a new one. I'm sure it will be a SAK though.
 
My first was an Imperial 2 blade jack. Learned to keep it sharp, kept it for a few years, and then it disappeared, as you say, jackknife. Gave me a permanent scar when I learned about how not to cut cardboard with a slipjoint pocketknife.

Been giving little knives to my kids and nieces and nephews for some time now. Kind of had a bad time with one of them -- he wasn't treating his mother (my sister) right, screaming at her, disobeying, etc., and I saw it. Hitting his sister, too. Grandpa and me sat him down and told him that I was not going to reward that kind of behavior, and that he needed to straighten up and fly right for a while, and then talk to me or his daddy or grandpa about getting a pocket knife, but the knife I'd brought on that trip specifically to give him was going back home with me.

My sister was mad at me a bit, felt like I'd been unfair and made him "earn" his knife, and she didn't understand why I did that to him but not to others. Honestly, I hadn't seen or heard of others of my nieces and nephews acting like that.

Well, yeah, I did make him earn it. It's a sign of trust, and he wasn't controlling his temper. Wasn't going to hand him a knife.

His dad took him out and bought him one when his behavior improved, and he was just so excited. Means more when it comes at a price, I think. And it was good for it to be from his dad.

Dad made me earn mine, too. I stole his old pocket knife out of his sock drawer when I was six and whittled on some blocks my grandpa made my mother. Cut my finger right open, too.

I waited for almost 2 years after that little incident before I was trusted enough to get that little Imperial jackknife, on my eighth birthday. It meant more than if he'd just given me what I wanted when I wanted.
 
On sunday i gave two nephews a Vic Tinker as a Confirmation gift. I didn't do it until i'd asked their dad for his approval. Luckily enough his answer was "Of course you can give them a pocket knife. I always used to carry one myself, as all kids did back then." So i gave it to them, with some instructions on how and where (not) to take and use it. They were over the moon with it. Later that day their mother told me she could tell that out of all the gifts they got, they definitely favoured the Vics.
 
Great story jackknife, your writing is excellent as always.

My first traditional knife, first knife as a matter of fact, was a pairing knife from my Grandmothers yard. She gave it to me when I was 8, and I've made some sheaths from leather that was way to thin, I think I've made about 5 over the years.

My first folder was a vic, Ive used it hard and one day one of the scales broke, so I glued a crudely shaped piece of wood to the one side, leaving the other red scale intact. Some years later the main blade snapped.
I dont think Ive thrown it out, maybe Ill find it one day.

After that Ive used a advertising Vic bantam for years, I still have it along with the paring knife.
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Peter
 
Stopping after church at the drug store, armed with a quarter and standing in front of the penny candy display trying to pick out the weeks supply of sweets...

Playing Tarzan in the woods, swinging on the vines not realizing after being cut so you could swing on them sooner or later the get brittle and break...

Catching bluegills in the river and mom's patience with my cleaning efforts in her kitchen sink...

And that first Barlow...

Mine was a Providence Cutlery 2 blade Barlow. It was the first knife I cut myself with, the first knife I thought I had lost, the first knife I played mumblety-peg with...

I still have that Barlow...
 
I suppose that a first knife for a young boy should be a smaller version of what his dad was carrying, or a small knife of not great value since it is going to be a learning experiance. The odds are it will get lost, used hard and sharpened alot, and some mistakes will be made.

I totally agree. I think a boy's first knife should be of good quality. Not necessarily great - but not inferior either. My boy just turned 3. When the time is right, he'll probably get a SAK or one of my slipjoints - a Case or Old Timer or Buck perhaps.
 
What a great post.....

One of the big regrets in my life is that I lost track of my own "first knife" over the years. I can picture the little black-boned jack like it was yesterday. I remember well the day it was taken away because I had used it to carve up my headboard......just as I remember the day (and the accompanying lecture) many months later, when it was eventually returned.

I'd give a $1,000 right now to have that little $10 knife back.....

Thanks for the post.
 
My first knife is 'in retirement' with a few others, like the Vic Classic that got chewed up by my all-time favorite dog. But the first one, was a Colonial 6-blade utility/scout that my Dad brought me back from a trip when I was eleven and he was driving truck. I learned to use a whetstone with that knife, and I admit it bit me several times - I have scars that give evidence. The carbon steel is well aged but never rusted, and the main blade has a lot of wiggle, but a keen edge. That one will sit in the drawer until I can pass it down to a grandson.
 
Good to see that most of you had an experiance that was typical for a young boy getting a first knife. I'm sure alot of those old Colonials, Imperials, and sak's were the first real knife most of us ever saw that we came to call our own. and yet all of us made it to adulthood in spite of the fears of mothers who may have thought us too young.

One trend that I see and don't agree with at all is the "child's first knife" as I see some knife companies making. Opinel and Victorinox come to my mind first. Yhe rounded butter knife point is, to me at least, sending a very bad message early on to the kid- i don't trust you. With a first knife, the kid is going to cut himself, not stab himself. No rounded end pocket knife is going to protect young fingers from a mistake that is going to happen. Heck we knife knuts cut ourselves as adults. But I think children are more observing than we give them credit. They will see the round end blade so unlike dad's or grandad's, and on a gut level know its a kids knife.

I very clearly remember the time I cut my left index finger pretty good with my first knife. I had been practicing sharpening, and the clip blade of that barlow slid off the stone and got me. Grandmom took some boiled cotton and wrapped it up good and all was fine. That's what they did in those days. Old bedsheets were never thrown out, just got cut into strips, boiled, and hung out in the sun to dry. Then they were rolled up tight and wrapped in waxed paper and stored in the linen closet for bandage material. Worked real good. Grandad didn't even take the knife away like I'd feared. He just asked me if I knew what I did wrong and learned anything. I told him I did, and that was that. I'm sure that senerio was played out long before the steam engine was invented.

Like a fledgling leaving the nest, there may be a few rough landings till they get the hang of it. But kids have a way of surviving small mistakes and learning not to do that again. Maybe thats why I love the old slip joints, they're not an idiot proof knife. You have to learn proper knife handling techniques with them. Unlike the rest of our society, they take a bit of for- thought and thinking to use safely. that first knife and the first .22 rifle, and the first car is like nudging the fledgling out of the nest onto the tree limb, then to fly. The sooner junior learns to handle the real world, the sooner he will be able to fly on his own.

I hope that kids will keep on getting a barlow or serpintine jack or sak for a first knife.
 
One trend that I see and don't agree with at all is the "child's first knife" as I see some knife companies making. Opinel and Victorinox come to my mind first.

Those knives make me cringe. They're not designed for safety, they're designed for profit ...... namely making as much of it off nervous nelly moms as they can.
 
For the same reasons, my dad never let me have a B-B gun, but he (also) gave me a shotgun when I was eleven (after I completed Hunter's Safety Training) and a .22-semi auto a couple years later. He didn't want me mistaking a firearm for a toy.
 
My first pocketknife was a cheap Barlow - I don't remember the brand, but I used that thing till the scales fell off. It's long gone now.

I remember as a kid, I would always look longingly at the Case displays in stores, and I knew how much every real Case knife was. Therefore since I was a frugal kid and had to pay for it with my own money, my first Case knife was a Sodbuster. Lots of knife for little money. I still have it. Those of you who remember drooling over Case displays when you were young will remember that the Soddie was about the cheapest knife on display.

Close to the same time, my dad got me a camping model Vic SAK - I still have that too. Used it many times over the years.
 
My first knife was given to me by my Mom,it went with me daily.That knife made most of what I played with...didn't have the $$ to buy so I made.
Jim
 
Good to see that most of you had an experiance that was typical for a young boy getting a first knife. I'm sure alot of those old Colonials, Imperials, and sak's were the first real knife most of us ever saw that we came to call our own. and yet all of us made it to adulthood in spite of the fears of mothers who may have thought us too young.

One trend that I see and don't agree with at all is the "child's first knife" as I see some knife companies making. Opinel and Victorinox come to my mind first. Yhe rounded butter knife point is, to me at least, sending a very bad message early on to the kid- i don't trust you. With a first knife, the kid is going to cut himself, not stab himself. No rounded end pocket knife is going to protect young fingers from a mistake that is going to happen. Heck we knife knuts cut ourselves as adults. But I think children are more observing than we give them credit. They will see the round end blade so unlike dad's or grandad's, and on a gut level know its a kids knife.

I wasn't given my Huntsman; instead I had to save up for it myself. It took awhile, since $25 bucks in 1982 was a lot of money for me as a twelve year old. When I finally scraped it together, I got my mother to take me to an Army surplus store where they had a large SAK display. The whole time I was saving I had agonized over exactly what combination of features I wanted, so I already knew it would be the Huntsman.

I'm sure I cut myself on that SAK Huntsman more than once, but the only time I can remember vividly is a time in my teens when I carelessly snapped the saw closed on my fingers - that left a mark!

Every time I write about it, I want to get it out and edc it again!
 
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