Traditional Folders with Modern Materials?

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Hello BF

I am looking to buy a traditional folder but also don't want to give up the high performance of a modern knife. Are the any manufacturers that make traditional style knives with for example S35VN?
I appreciate your help.
 
Custom makers, Queen/Schatt&Morgan/Tuna Valley Cutlery, Cold Steel, Trestle Pines, Case
 
Yes, Knives Ship Free is supposed to come out with a new run of Indian River Jacks this year in S35VN. They were supposed to come out at the end of 2015, but production problems pushed delivery back to this year. I've sent an email inquiry to KSF at the end of last week, but haven't heard back yet. They're good about answering, so I'll let you know when I know. If you're not familiar with the IRJ's, just google them.
 
There are also a couple of knives which appear to be classic patterns, but have clips on them. Once the pocket clip is removed, they would be considered "traditional".

Several of these are single blade lockback knives.
There is also the Cold Steel "Lucky", which is a pen knife with two blades, both S35VN.
 
AsianBeerCan said:
Hello BF

I am looking to buy a traditional folder but also don't want to give up the high performance of a modern knife. Are the any manufacturers that make traditional style knives with for example S35VN?
I appreciate your help.
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CAse releases a Tony Bose design in 154CM every year and there are about 20 years worth. Schatt and Morgan has a number of knives in Ats34 and they gave been doing that for about 20 years too. Case and Queen have a few in BG42.
 
Ooh what if we had like a Stockman where each blade was a different blade steel? Like a carbon steel clip point, S35VN sheepsfoot, and a 14C28N pen blade? That would be unique :)
 
Case Bose makes an annual pattern using 154CM, they started the annual collaboration patterns using ATS34.

Queen's Tuna Valley line uses 154CM, and I believe might have used CPM154. They produce SFO runs for Northwoods using S35VN and 154CM, possibly CPM154. Queens Schatt and Morgan line also uses, or did use, ATS34 for some of their blades.

Great Eastern has used 420HC and 440C for some of their Great Eastern Cutlery stamped folders.

Cold Steel has the stockman with S35VN blades.

If you can find them, I believe Canal Street used 154CM, ATS34 and 440C in some of their patterns.

I would contact some of the custom makers out there. CPM154, 154CM, ATS34, S30V, S35VN among other stainless steels are quite popular. I currently have the following:

Jared Oeser Native and Zulu in CPM154; Brent Cramer gunstock jack in CPM154, Gene Wiseman barlow in D2, all with micarta covers. I have a Doc Taber Lannys Clip with ATS34 and red bone covers, and a Doc Taber Zulu with CPM154 blade and red jigged bone covers.
 
I also have two Tracy LaRock knives, a dogleg jack and a Lannys Clip, both in O1, so I'm not exclusive to stainless super steels...
 
I've got several Davison's in ats34, cpm154 and d2. Got a cold steel stockman in s35vn. And a case/Bose in 154cm. Also gave several in g10.

I firmly believe that originally, makers would have used those materials. They believed in the best they could get. At the time that was carbon steels or 440C. They intended it to be a good product that did a good job and lasted. We are the ones that associate those materials of old with being traditional. They thought of them as best to do the job.

But I have to admit. I've learned that 1095 with good heat treat outperforms most and performs at least as good as the best "super steels" that I've used. It gets sharper, the working edge develops to a sharper edge and stays that way as long as the "best". Just gotta take care of it
 
Case has put a few examples of knives out with all CV except for one in their usual stainless and marketed them as ranching knives. The stainless for castrating being the idea , I believe. Not super steel, but an interesting take on combos of steel. CSC also used 14-4CrMo which is supposed to be similar to cpm 154, in make up and performance.
Thanks, Neal
 
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