Trattenbacher Taschenfeitel - a typical Austrian pattern

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Hi guys!

I´m on the border to Austria. So I have some connections over there - including my grandma (she died last year). When I was at the age of 13 she gave me a Trattenbacher Taschenfeitel (or Trattenbacher Taschenzaunkerl). Trattenbach is a place in the Alps and Taschenfeitel/zaunkerl does only mean Pocketknife in austrian dialect.
It is a pretty traditional friction folder there, and it reminds me a little on the original ones Fausto showed off at some time. Here´s a little history about this knife, unfortuntelly not in english language http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trattenbacher_Zauckerl


A short history about this knife - the first time it was noticed was in the 16th century in Trattenbach, a part of Upper Austria (Oberösterreich). The mills and forges were driven by a small river . And the smiths could make that knife very easily. The handles were made of wood, mostly beech. There were many small family-manufacturers that could make this little and usefull knife in only one smith. Traditionally all the blades are forged and later polished. The blade mark is stamped there and shows off the manufacturer.

During the time, the design didn´t change much, it´s still produced there. Formaly there were 16 manufacturers and nowadays only two have survived.

Here are some pics

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(BTW: The bladeshape might be "Reverse Tanto" - pretty tactical for the 16th century ;) )

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A size comparison to an Opinel #7 - what´s really interessting is the very thin blade. When it´s sharpened it works like a razor!

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For size comparison to a Case Sodbuster Jr.

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The obligatory in-hand pic

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And a pic of the stamped marks on the blade

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These knives were and are still cheap made. But they were knives for farmers and guys working in the woods, mines or directly in the Alps. But they are some great piece of usefullness. The only thing, there is no locking mechanism and so the blade sits very loos. No punching or stabbing. This is a real cutting tool. I like the two I have. They are something typical austrian.
My grandma told me, when she was a girl everyone one the farm had such a knife in his pocket. Mostly for food prep during field work and the helping for the cutting works on a farm. There were easy to get and cheap.

I have never seen this knife here on BFC before or heard that is has any popularity outside of Austria. So I thought, I could tell you something about this pattern and the whole knife and its history.

Let me hear your opinions, Ladies and Gentlemen!

Kind regards
Andi
 
Very cool Andi:thumbup:
One of the great things about this forum is being able to see the knives from around the world. I really like the simplicity of the construction of those two.
Thanks for showing them to us :)
 
Thanks for the pics Andi, I love thin slicing knives and simple working knives, these fit the bill perfectly.

Best regards

Robin
 
Great post Andi,
i have one or two somewhere,older people here used them mainly for cutting tobacco...(handle on mine is much shorter)

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Thank you for sharing Andi. I've seen these patterns before, always passed them off as penny knives, never knew the heritage behind the American versions.
 
Thanks for the nice replies, fellows!

These knives have some influence on me, because of the family relationship. :)

@ Rino: This seems to be the same knife, just the handle length and maybe the blade lenght might be... however - our two countries are not so far from each other that there shouldn´t be a relationship during history (just look at the KK-monarchy).

@ Duane: I really like to share the knives from the "old world" to everyone on the planet (and as much as I know about old knives). This are comments like yours, that make me go on and search for other knives/patterns belonging to this kind of culture.

I´ve seen, that there are no patterns like this around on BFC - especially the blade shape is rather unique; but believe me, it makes a real cutting monster, while cutting anything.

:)
 
I understand the heritage thing since I knew my mom's side of the family came from France, and now that I've gone back away it looks more and more like my dad's side came from France as well so it makes me even more drawn to Opinel. Those are some seriously thin blades but I bet they cut, and as others mentioned thanks for sharing the knives and history!
 
Great thread Andi, really interesting :thumbup: I have some Austrian ancestors a few generations back. Had a fantastic holiday there a few years ago too, would really recommend it to anyone, so beautiful. It was nice to see plenty of people openly carrying and using knives in the mountains. I only had my Victorinox Hunter with me, and I wished I'd gone better dressed! :D

 
That's really neat. My grandparents were Austrian (from Feldkirch). It would be fun to get such a knife someday as a matter of heritage.
 
Many years ago my sister had a boyfriend who was one of the last apprentices at Joseph Rodgers (and thanks to him I've got a great set of kitchen knives) :thumbup: His mother was Austrian and once sent him to school in a tough area of Sheffield wearing Lederhosen! :D
 
Very, Very cool knives Andi!!!:thumbup:

I love the simple rustic design and looks. It's funny that from one side of the world to the other, very similar knives show up in the hands of working folks. And the thin blades, I had alwasy thought Opinel had nice thin blades, but those things will be like a freshly stropped strait razor!

Carl.
 
I agree with Duane, it is really awesome to see all the different kinds of traditional knives from around the world here. I stumbled on Opinel by accident a few years ago, but it was here that I learned about the Laguiole as well as the Italian and now Austrian friction folders. Very cool!
 
Thanks, I always like to see regional patterns like this. Now, to figure out how to get one...I bet they are great slicers with blades that thin.
 
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