Treeman Knives Torture Test

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Enjoyed the video George , but i expexcted that any minute you would pull out an Alpha kubaton and drive it through the barrel. :D


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Great video!

Love hearing the woman at the very end "that looks like fun". :D
 
It'd be nice to get an up-close view of the edge and tip after all of that, but it's always nice to see a maker of a combat knife actually allow it to face abuse in front of a whole lot of people.
 
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No no, I mean CLOSE look. :) I'm not implying that the knife failed or anything as it obviously didn't, it'd just be interesting to see what type of damage (however minimal) the edge took, be it blunting, rolling or chipping.
 
For me that is a better demonstration of what you might use a "hard use" knife for, as opposed to hitting it with a hammer.
 
Broos said:
For me that is a better demonstration of what you might use a "hard use" knife for, as opposed to hitting it with a hammer.
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I'm not sure why you would repeatedly stab a barrel with a knife in a "hard use" type situation.
 
I'm only going to take one shot at this as there seems to be a lack of willingness--not ability--for many people to engage in anything approaching maturity when conversing on this subject, but...

No, you're not likely to stab a barrel in real world use. However, you might be stabbing something else--especially with a large tanto, as a strong tip which still has great piercing power is the whole idea behind that design. Ribs, as hard as one tries to miss them, have a bad tendency to get in the way of a blade entering a torso, and can ding up a less-than-optimal point/edge geometry fairly badly (one of my friends lost the front 3/8" off the point of his SOG Desert Dagger inside of the hog he was killing last year).

My question, had I just come across this knife on a table, likely would have been how the hollow grind would hold up under impact use. Honestly, combine the hollow grinds and the sawback--two design features that can very seriously weaken a blade if not done correctly--and I'd have been worried about the front 3/4" or so of that blade snapping off on that drum, especially since many of those stabs glanced a bit and went in at angles that were a long way from being parallel with the direction of the force. The fact that no gross damage occurred from this type of abuse inspires confidence that the knife wouldn't fail in the real world. That's the whole idea behind testing products of any kind: subject them to stresses greater than what they'll face from the average consumer, and see where the limits are. Now this wasn't really a test, as the limits weren't found and there was no way of collecting repeatable data, but instead a demonstration of the toughness of the knife. Does this one demonstration mean that it's the awesomest, bestest knife ever to land on the planet? No. But, there's a whole hell of a lot of knives that couldn't do it. Also, the grip security seemed to be very good under hard impact, another point a potential buyer might take interest in.

Now, I invite you to watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpIRLMdWsiE

If your response to it is:
"I'm not sure why you would ever cut so many small squares of paper in a 'sicing use' type situation"...your parents should have beaten you more. ;)
 
A knife is supposed to pierce and cut right? And what damages most knives, prying with them right? So that is what I did. I am hard pressed where think of a situation where I would have to hang my body weight off of, but people put them in a vise and do that.

IMHO there are two types of knives, those whose primary purpose is for cutting things, and those whose primary purpose is cutting people. On those primarily used for cutting things abuse tests are mandatory, because they are "tools". Those for cutting people will cut lots of air and a very few will ever cut a person. They do not need be that durable since they are carried and seldom used.

Until Treeman asked me do do this test the only tool I own that I had 100% confidence in was my RMJ Tactical Shrike. Now I have it in this knife too.

I find it humorous that anyone besides the owner of a knife would try to dictate how it could/should be used. Just like with guns, too many owners and not enough users.- George
 
Well said, George. I had also made that distinction a while back, and hope never to visit the "People" catergory.
I am curious to know if the spine serrations caused any resistance pulling the blade out of the barrel? If so, that would cause me some concern when choosing a blade intended to repeatedly pull out of a person.
 
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Entertaining video. Yes the very tip broke off but considering the abuse it's still an impressive performance from a knife.
 
i wish they would give one of their knifes to knifetest.com to see how it compares with the other knife.
 
mercop said:
what damages most knives, prying with them right?
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Right.

But this was not a demanding test of the blade's resistance to prying. Since piercing a steel drum forms a relatively tight seal around the blade it helps to wiggle and yank to pull it out. But the drum is flexible and the blade is only trapped at one narrow part of its length. So very little side stress is put on the blade during removal. IMO a better test of resistance to prying would be in solid hardwood or pine after deep penetration.
 
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