Tri-Ad lock question

[orca8589]

Regarding the strength of the Tri-Ad lock, how much of a difference in strength is there between a knife with steel liners and a knife without liners?

I know the Tri-Ad lock is one of the strongest on the market, and I'm looking at a Recon 1 that's linerless. I have the American Lawman with liners, and it's a stout knife for sure. I'm wondering how much strength is given up for the lighter weight of a linerless knife with a Tri-Ad lock?

If any of you have experience with both, please comment.

~Chris

 

[res1cue]

I'm pretty sure that the Recon 1 can still hold up something like 200 lb.

At this kind of level, I would expect parts of the blade to break first.

 

[jhyde7585]

I haven't dealt with the Recon 1 with liners, or any cold steel with liners for that matter, but the G-10 models are great. I am beyond impressed with mine. I wouldn't have any worry about the G-10, the slabs are freakin' huge. By far the thickest G-10 I've seen on any knife. Unlike others with FRN or liner-less G-10, these won't flex. Period. I'm a pretty big guy and I've tried to flex them or get movement, and I can't.

I have put mine through ALOT of work, and never had a problem. Overall, I think the thickness of the scales make up for the lack of strength of steel liners.

 

[orca8589]

Thanks guys, that's good to know. I try to get a new working folder each year (that's also a backup to my camp chores fixed blade) and I like what I've seen of the Recon 1. Mainly I needed something with a stronger tip.

Any other users' comments are welcome, keep'em coming.

~Chris

 

[CalBearTactical]

I saw that video on deadliest warrior, the Navy Seal used a Recon 1 and did a stabbing demo,he stabbed with it like crazy and the tip broke after about 100 stabs but the Tri-Ad lock was still intact, so that kinda shows that the blade will break off before the lock fails.

 

[singularity35]

I saw that video on deadliest warrior, the Navy Seal used a Recon 1 and did a stabbing demo,he stabbed with it like crazy and the tip broke after about 100 stabs but the Tri-Ad lock was still intact, so that kinda shows that the blade will break off before the lock fails.

I think that was still the ultralock recon 1 in that vid.

 

[akula83]

The triad lock "bar" mechanism and the hardened stop pin more than make up for the absense of the liners.

 

[FlaMtnBkr]

The triad lock "bar" mechanism and the hardened stop pin more than make up for the absense of the liners.

The bar and stop pin have to be supported by something. In this case G10. Without steel liners. I don't know what the bar and pin have to do with his question?

 

[crom]

That G10 is super thick and I can't get mine (recon 1) to flex either. i like the simplicity and it saves weight.

 

[kreole]

The bar and stop pin have to be supported by something. In this case G10. Without steel liners. I don't know what the bar and pin have to do with his question?

Yep, it's only as strong as its weakest link. Sal said in their testing that the compression lock doesn't break until the stop pin gets ripped through the G10/liners. That is probably the weak link of the linerless triad (and if not, then something that would fail even before that is). The stop pin and lock bar is irrelevant to that equation.

 

[Ankerson]

Yep, it's only as strong as its weakest link. Sal said in their testing that the compression lock doesn't break until the stop pin gets ripped through the G10/liners. That is probably the weak link of the linerless triad (and if not, then something that would fail even before that is). The stop pin and lock bar is irrelevant to that equation.

That's pretty much what happens with the Tri-Ad too from what I heard and that would take a lot of force to do that.

 

[bobusx]

Thanks guys, that's good to know. I try to get a new working folder each year (that's also a backup to my camp chores fixed blade) and I like what I've seen of the Recon 1. Mainly I needed something with a stronger tip.

Any other users' comments are welcome, keep'em coming.

~Chris

If you want a stronger tip than the Recon 1 Clip Point, a Spear Point version is supposed to come out later this year. Or the Tanto version is already out, if you can do the Tanto thing.