Tried a Boker Magnum

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I've been curious about the Boker Magum lines. Since Boker has had global production as part of it's makeup with plants in Argentina and for a while China, I was curious to see if the Magnum, Bonsai made would just seem like another Steel Warrior or Rough Rider. Or would they be different, more like a Boker, etc..

One of the ebay sellers I have bought several German Bokers from had a Magnum Canoe in Red Bone up with a short time to go. So I bid $8.50 and won. Okay, I'm cheap. I kept waiting and passing on the Magnum Bonsais until I could get one for less than they usually go for. I got the knife in today.

I checked it out, shaved some arm hair with the main blade, and pocketed it to see how it rode. It doesn't shave baby butt smooth, but will dehair a patch. It has a noticably hollow ground blade that is not brute thick like the other China blades. There is a little rounding to the edges of the bolsters and scales. It looks and feels like a red bone canoe made by Boker, or Case or the like. It carries as nicely as the black Delrin handled German Boker single spring canoe I've been EDC'ing lately. Even though the Bonsai is a twin spring. You can tell that Boker is running things and that this is one of their product lines and not something they just added their name too. Unlike the SWs and RRs, the Boker Bonsai looks and feels like a Euro or American made knife.

I'll have to assume that the reason the Bonsai has a little better walk and talk than the German one is that the Bonsai is a two spring, where the German made is a single spring.

I have less problem with a Chi-made Boker. Boker isn't trying to slip these in as part of a previous line, but is upfront that this is one line of product that fits in with their global line up. German Bokers are still German made Boker Tree Brand, the Arbolitos are still the Boker Arblolito, Argentine line, and the Magnums are the Boker Bonsai line. Different lines for different tastes. As noted above, the Bonsai, at least this one, is the first Chinese made knife I've come across that has the trimness and lines of western made knives. Regardless of how well they are made, the Steel Warriors, and some others, are generally too heavy, the blades are thick, not necessarily bad, just heavy, they tend to be edged in terms of handles and bolsters, much like some newer Case Yellow Handles, and the scales often are not quite there. At least on this example of the Boker Magnum, Boker has them feeling like you would expect a Boker to feel. A pleasant surprise.

Now to dremel off that "China" etch on a small part of the main blade.

For those who want to try a pattern on the cheap first I would suggest the Boker Magnum Bonsai line rather than the Steel Warrior, Rough Rider, or others as the Boker will give you a truer feel of the pattern.
 
Nice review Amos.....and a CANOE pattern on top of everything...there's hope for ya yet, my good man !:thumbup:
-Cheers
 
To clear up confusion on how Boker manages the Magnum line, here is a quote from this thread over in the Boker folder.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412689&highlight=magnum

"As there is some confusion we want to explain our company's philosophy. We own both brands Boker Treebrand and Magnum. The Boker name is only on products coming out of our own production in Solingen / Germany or in Argentina, whereas Magnum is an imported line of fine products meeting our quality standards, however, independent manufacturers most in the Far East like Taiwan and China are supplying us. We cover Magnum with the same guarantee like our own products. Both brands are represented in one identical catalog and on our website. And in addition, we introduced the brand "Boker Plus" in 2006 for products designed in Solingen and produced in the far east.

Best regards
Ernst Felix"


Here are my three Boker Canoes side by side. L to R. 200BD (Delrin), BK 200 ST, both with Carbon Steel blades and both German made. And the new Magnum Bonsai.
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Even though the Bonsai is a double spring it is the same thickness as the single spring 200s. Well, the stag is actually a bit thicker because the stag sticks up more.

;) Yep Gramps, you and Charlie have been a bad influence. I've always thought the Canoe was a good looking pattern. It's just taken me about 25 or 30 years to get finally get one. And like those potato chips, you can't have just one. Y'all can probably tell from the bolsters and the blade on the Delrin version it's seen some pocket time and use these last few weeks or so.

Amos
 
I must say I think that Boker uses some fine looking stag on their pocket knives...the color always seems to be very rich with lots of varied hues, the slabs thick, and the horn itself nicely figured. Recently I bought a Case fancy scrolled bolster Gunboat canoe in stag......nice fit and finish overall on the knife.
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-Regards
 
I agree wholeheartedly, Gramps! The photo above doesn't do the stag justice. Of the three Boker slippies and the two Arbolito Fixed blades I have in stag, all of them have richly colored stag with great bark and figure. All of them are full feeling. I understand that the stag for the German knives comes from Bokers herds in Argentina. Given the consistency in limited number of knives I have from both places and the images I see of other Bokers, I don't doubt that. I like the golden hues more than than the flat black/browns on stark white I see a lot on other knives.

That Case still ain't lookin shaggy though. Still a good looker.
 
I have several of the large Bonsai Magnum Congresses and a Mini Trapper. The walk and talk and fit and finish is really good on all of them. From my experience the steel holds and edge and sharpens easily. I think the only thing they need to overcome is the quality and color of bone they use. Larry

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I have the Magnum Sowbelly stockman and the large congress. I marvel at the quality, fit and finish for what I paid. As mentioned, the jigging on the bone is a little crude, but for walk and talk, securely seated blades, etc, they rival any of my knives. And the 440A steel isn't half bad for edge retention. I use the large congress for whittling and it keeps it's edge comparably to my Boker congress with 1095 carbon blades.

I had one Steel Warrior and wasn't impressed. I agree with Amos' recommendation that if you are going to buy a cheap import slippie, go with Magnum.
 
You guys are killing me!!
Every time I open a thread where you've posted pictures, I just KNOW there will be mouthwatering stuff.
I haven't been looking too closely at the canoe pattern before, but I think I may have to do that now.
Curses... More knives to buy... ;)

/ Karl
 
Forgot about this older Boker Canoe I have, real nice workmanship......smooth Green Bone handles, 440C blades.....I don't use it much. Mostly I carry a Case 70's 5 Dot Chestnut Bone Canoe in CV......blades have a "healthy" patina.......kind of like the weathered complexion of a retiree in Florida.:eek: :D
Here's the Boker...not certain how old it is :
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-Regards
 
You guys are killing me!!
Every time I open a thread where you've posted pictures, I just KNOW there will be mouthwatering stuff.
I haven't been looking too closely at the canoe pattern before, but I think I may have to do that now.
Curses... More knives to buy... ;)

/ Karl

He's hooked! ;) See, I told you this was a bad place to hang around. A lot of bad influence around here. :eek: :thumbup:

Nice Boker, Gramps! A nice deep green instead of the lime green that keeps showing up on a lot of knives now. Smooth bone is nice too.
 
...a Case 70's 5 Dot Chestnut Bone Canoe......blades have a "healthy" patina.......kind of like the weathered complexion of a retiree in Florida.

I didn't know Case make knife blades out of leather... :D

/ Karl
 
You guys are killing me!!
Every time I open a thread where you've posted pictures, I just KNOW there will be mouthwatering stuff.
I haven't been looking too closely at the canoe pattern before, but I think I may have to do that now.
Curses... More knives to buy... ;)

/ Karl
I think for some of these guys it's as much about honing their photography talents as it is honing their blades! Not that that's a bad thing, mind you... :)

I too have been impressed with Boker. Just today I received my second, a Tree Brand Tang Stamp series (get this) green Canoe! Carbon steel blades, frosted etch, beautiful F&F, $25. Rivets are all snug & level, the scales are square and have no gaps anywhere; it's just amazing for the price. It came sharp, but not scary sharp. As stated above, the jigging on the bone is about the only thing that looks less than top end. Single spring, no half stops. The spring is in no way lacking, but at the same time it doesn't have the insane tension some makers are using these days.

My other Boker is a Razor Barlow from the same series. It has all the attributes of the new Canoe (which is why I bought the Canoe), but I'd say the jigging is even more plain, and the logo embossed on the bolster is a bit uneven in depth. But I think I paid all of $20 for this one, so I'm not complaining. This one does have half stops and slightly stronger springs than the Canoe.

I've got a Queen 1095 Canoe on order and it'll be interesting to see how it compares to this Boker. At almost 3 times the price I wonder how much better it can be. Maybe that'll force me to get my own camera out. :)

-- Sam
 
I didn't know Case make knife blades out of leather... :D

/ Karl
...gives a whole new meaning to the term, "skin"-ing blade...OH, Lord, that was really bad !...sorry, I just couldn't resist !

-Regards
 
I've got a Queen 1095 Canoe on order and it'll be interesting to see how it compares to this Boker. At almost 3 times the price I wonder how much better it can be. Maybe that'll force me to get my own camera out. :)

Let us know once you've got it.
Looking forward to seeing that Queen, Sam!

Uh-oh, it seems like I'm slowly drifting towards the dark canoe-side of the force...

/ Karl
 
Let us know once you've got it.
Looking forward to seeing that Queen, Sam!

Uh-oh, it seems like I'm slowly drifting towards the dark canoe-side of the force...

/ Karl
Don't lean too far: those canoes are tippy!

-- Sam
 
How does the Magnum Canoe compare to the Rough Rider version? The blade profiles look pretty similar. Is there enough of a difference between them to make the Magnum significantly better? Just wondering.
 
I had an interesting situation today with the above mentioned Magnum canoe. It got wet with juice as I was peeling a mango. I noticed as I was cleaning up that my hands had red on them. At first I thought maybe from the mango skin. Nope! The red was coming from the red bone scales wherever the the they got wet and I touched them. I took some very hot water and dipped the knife in it and the water reddened up some. After a little swirling, the knife was quite hot so when I pulled it out it pretty much air dried. The scales didn't bleach out or anything, but there was definitely some excess dye on that one.

That was first for me. So there may be a slight downside that comes with the cheap price. Still a good knife, but beware the bleeding handles.

Kind of scary when your canoe reacts to water like that. :eek: Even scarier than it being tippy!
 
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