Trying to Decide: HI Bowie or Kkukri

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I am new to the site and am trying to decide which knife to buy. I understand that HI ran out of WWII 18" today. I like the look of the Bowie and that is a knife that has always interested me, but the Kumar Kobra 20 or 25 looks interesting as do the Sirupati 20 or 25.

I want something that is hefty, good for self-defence, useful for camping, and could chop if it had to. Impossible?
 
Welcome to the cantina Taliesan. I'll bet one of the experts can tell you exactly which Khuk will fit the bill.


Heber Ellsworth
 
Welcome,Tal -

Your question is usual and normal. The answer NEVER is :D Not around here, anyway. My favorite "all-around" is the smaller WWI. More oriented toward the weapon side, but still very capable as a "woods companion" are the Malla and the Gelbu Special". Nearly ALL of the Khukuris began life as agricultural knives, and evolved along the lines for which they were most used (including heavy chopping, or brush & vine clearing, or fighting bandits and invaders). As for their effectiveness in all these persuits, well, the Nepali are still here, and they still favor the Khukuri.
I loved Bowies for years, and only had a few but they were the best I could afford. Khukuris have more than replaced them. They are great knives,and historically important, but a Khuk is a Khuk, and a Bowie just isn't :rolleyes:
 
Impossible to choose only one.

Don't choose a 12" Sirupati to fell redwoods, and don't choose a 20" AK for weed whacking.

The HI Bowie is a jewel. A 16.5" or 18" WW2 is the all around favorite "to-do-anything" and everything.

Get a big thick belt so you can carry both. The 16.5" sits within the reach of my left hand as I type this. The Bowie is next to the mousepad.
 
I keep a kagas katne by the keyboard. :D

Depends on how large a knife you're willing to carry. Some of these khuks are pretty big. Find out how much room you have in your backpack and how much extra weight you want to carry.
 
Taliesan wrote:
I am new to the site and am trying to decide which knife to buy. I understand that HI ran out of WWII 18" today. I like the look of the Bowie and that is a knife that has always interested me, but the Kumar Kobra 20 or 25 looks interesting as do the Sirupati 20 or 25.

I want something that is hefty, good for self-defence, useful for camping, and could chop if it had to. Impossible?

First of all let me add my welcome to the others. Pull up a seat and rest a spell, tobbaccy is always permitted here if you're a user and good beer and whiskys are welcome to, same deal.:)

That question always brings out more opinions than H.I. has khukuri's as the answer reflects our favorite khukuris within the criteria given.:)

Just by their nature and design a khukuri will out perform any Bowie at almost any task, but especially chopping!!!!
So therefore to give a really proper answer to the question it means the question has to be narrowed down to certain aspects of not only the specific tasks, but also to the build and shape of the person going to be using the knife.
All the answers given by everyone are proper and true for generalities which explains why the question has to be narrowed down.:)

"I want something that is hefty, good for self-defence, useful for camping, and could chop if it had to."

None of the khukuris mentioned are particularly "hefty", but any will do the job.
All will work for self defense, some just better than others.
Same with "useful for camping" and "could chop if had to."

The Chitlangi and YCS are both, double fullered, lighter weight, well balanced, khukuris that will cut like a heavier knife because of their weight being able to generate more speed at the tip.
Another really good all around khukuri that's just a bit heftier is the Baby Ganga Ram Special. All will do the jobs you have described.

Personal taste, choice in stock at present, and sometimes price range will help one make a decision from here.:)

Personally for me the H.I. AK Bowie, although an excellent knife, is the one I would leave in camp for the wife and kids since they are _generally_ more used to a straighter edge than the khukuri has.:)
The YCS or Chitlangi would go with me out of camp into the wilderness to solve any potential problems I might run into.
The standard YCS has the advantage of having 2 kardas and a 3 cornered awl.
The plain YCS has the standard karda and chakma.
 
Thanks to all who have given advice.

All of you seem to indicate that the khukri design can't be beat.

What has happened is that I returned a Sirupati 15" that got a crack in the handle. That gave me a $100 credit. Now I am trying to upgrade a little, but without spending too much more. Ideally that would be $25-50 more, but I might stretch it to $75 at the most.

Yves - The YCS is the best looking of the knives I have seen on the website (blade, style, additional tools), but it is out of my price range now. The Chitlangi does not seem to be in stock. What do you think about the WWII 16.5 or the Sirupati 20?

Also, I saw where a Kami named Bura had been recommended. How important is it to request a specific Kami?

Did anyone see the pictures of the Gurkhas training perhaps for Afghanistan? Their knives looked rather long and light don't you think, maybe like the Sirupati 20?
 
Welcome to the cantina, Taliesan. In the $125-150 range, you should have a wide variety available.:D If you like the YCS, you should ask about the plain YCS. Basically it is a YCS with brass fittings, a normal wood handle, and a plain karda and chakma. I think they are about $150, but I'm not sure.

You also mentioned knives carried by gorkhas, maybe you should check out the gorkhas in Afghanistan thread here if you haven't already. The knife pictured most prominently there is quite similar to the Gelbu Special, but also looks abit like a Chainpuri to me (handle is different, though).

Also, almost forgot...It doesn't really matter which kami makes your knife, as all are held to the same standards and all excel routinely. Bura is said to be the best, but I don't have one of his knives. I have one by the "kami with no name" (KNN), and it is excellent, but all of them are great.
 
Taliesan I believe any khukuri you choose in the 16"-18" range will do just about anything you want to do. With the WW II being a little heftier maybe excelling in some areas over the Sirupati.

Matt told it right on and there's really nothing I can add that would be more helpful.
But I do want to reinforce what Matt said about the talent of any kami as they are all excellent and you won't get a bad khukuri from any of them.
Some are just a little more refined in some areas than others with Bura being the absolute best as he is the Royal Kami and his work always reflects that.
 
Welcome. Don't overlook the BAS. It is a great all around user, but I have not tried a WWII yet. A 16.5" WWII may be better, I plan on "researching" this thouroughly in the future.;)
 
Thank you for all the advice folks.

I ordered a plain YCS today. I'll let you know how it seems after I get it, (but I guess you already know.)

I'll be seeing you in about a week I guess to ask about how to use it and care for it. As for the latter, sharpening has never been something I seem to get right.

Thanks again. And thanks for your patience Uncle Bill.
 
Uncle Bill,

The YCS arrived today. Thanks. I was not expecting it until around Tuesday. Didn't know you'd be sending it priority mail.

It looks great. I'm on my way out, but will test it when I get back this evening. It looks as if a camping trip is on the near horizon.

Thanks again.
 
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