Trying to find a sharpening system I saw once, cannot remember the name. Please help

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Hello,
I couple of years back I found a system on a website that consisted of the knife being clamped vertically, and two rail and sled systems pivoted from the base so the blade could be sharpened all at once without flipping in these single rail systems everywhere.

Anyone know what its called please ? :)

Thanks

Harry
 
Wicked Edge?

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http://www.wickededgeusa.com/

 
Yeah I was just looking at the post a few down talking about Wicked Edge. Same set up but the one I found was on a larger scale, the blade clamped higher and both the horizontal and vertical rails were longer. It looked like a better idea to avoid variable angles as much on longer blades.

Or did this company Wicked Edge used to make that set up?
 
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could it be a home made setup ? i can't remember anything like that ...
 
I think the Wicked Edge is the only thing I've ever seen that uses that method... If there is a larger version, I've never heard of it. It would be easy to make at home, given some consideration and the right tools, so it's entirely possible that you saw a homebrew device.

The Wicked Edge will do quite long knives with no trouble, unless you're sharpening machetes and swords, I don't think you'd need a longer one to do the job...
 
Thanks guys for your input :thumbup:

Yeah it could well of been a home made setup. Seem to remember them for sale though.... Did Wicked Edge have a larger model they started off with maybe ? I'm talking 6 years ago I found it.

Yeah I'd be sharpening 18" & 20" Kukri and a Fallkniven A1. Do any of these jigs allow you to do 12.5 degree scandi grinds?
 
none of those without tinkering a bit.

the only guided device that can go below 15° without modification is the edge pro.

but imho, no need for jig for a scandi grind, the bevel is your guide.
 
Keep in mind, the guided devices with clamps have 'published' numbers for their angles, but more often than not, those published numbers won't be a true indicator of actual angles. Bigger & wider blades will often be done at lower angles than what's marked on the jig (sometimes much, much lower). The marked angles on the jigs are based on ONE theoretically 'typical' blade size, shape & profile, and clamped in a specific position on the blade. A larger knife, with a wider blade (greater distance from spine to edge) will likely produce a shallower angle, and a narrower blade will produce a steeper angle. Very long blades (such as the OP's mentioned knives at 18" & 20") will add variability to the angles, due to the widely-variable distance between the edge (at tip, mid-section and heel) and the top of the clamp, where the rod rides on it. In fact, those very long blades would likely have to be repositioned in the clamp, just to effectively reach all of the edge. In a nutshell, the actual angle produced by the jig would need to be accurately measured, after the blade is set up in the clamp, to have any real meaning.

Having put forth that long-winded explanation, I don't think a clamped/guided setup would work very well on such large blades (UNLESS, as originally asked, the guided system was proportionately scaled-up in size, for such large blades).
 
Well, and even on the WEPS (the most precise one I can think of off the top of my head), the angles are only marked for repeatability. If you actually want to be SURE you're sharpening at a precise angle, spend the extra few bucks to get an Angle Cube and make sure. Clay uses one in most of his videos, even.
 
(Obsessed with edges) be it long winded, it was informative, thankyou. (Komitadjie) Yep an angle cube is a good idea, I really struggle sharpening Kukris, I end up with more of a full convex which I dont really like. Probably some kind of belt sander would be good for a Kukri but when you F*** up you really F*** up!

(Komitadjie) What is a WEPS? Please can you add a link, I searched for it.


ALso has anyone tried sharpening a kukri on the Edge Pro? How did you get on?
 
I'd honestly suggest giving the belt a try, it's not nearly as tough as it might seem at first. I think it's about the easiest way to get a good edge that I've ever used. I sharpen semi-pro down at a local sporting goods place on the weekends, and all of that is done on a Kalamazoo 1x42 belt grinder, running Trizact belts. With a medium-grit belt, say a 220 or 320, you'd have to REALLY screw up to do anything serious to a kukri. I've done machetes before, and they're not a challenge at all.

The WEPS is the Wicked Edge Precision Sharpener, it's the device referenced and shown in post 2 here. You'll commonly see it called the "WEPS" or the "WE", as compared to the EdgePro's common "EP" contraction. The EdgePro might have some trouble with it, I'm not sure, but the table on the Apex is really only suited for blades of moderate depth, up to a large chef's knife. Going beyond that might cause problems, you'd have to talk to someone with more experience there. For a Kuk, I'd be tempted to get some DMT DuoFolds and do it freehand if I wasn't going to use the belt.
 
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