TSProf K02 sharpens knife to BESS 20 edge (record setting)

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V e r y impressive! Requires a master's touch that extremely few have. Congratulations.
 
The TSProf is definitely one of the cooler fixed angle systems from the videos I've seen. I've never tried one. I like that it can rotate fast for deburring and shows the angle with a gauge. Looks well made.
 
I use my TsProf a lot and now that they have their act together and not making design change's on what seemed to be a daily basis it's great.
The clamps hold better then anything I have ever tried plus the clamp selection is great as well,I find myself grabbing for either the double conical clamp's or the double fillet clamp's a lot.

I find for pocket knifes the single clamp's will work but you really need to crank them down to get them to hold the knife good on most pocket knifes,if it's a kitchen knife with a flat grind then that's different.
The reason the double clamp's hold better is because they are narrower and that means more pounds per-square inch.

The only thing I wish they'd change about their kit's is to include the reinforced spring's with every kit for the clamp's their supplying in that kit and just forget about the standard spring's altogether.
I'm just helping 2 guys that ordered K03's and both guys before they ordered never knew they had them,I was able to help the one guy put his order together before contacting George.

The reinforced spring's are nice because they offer less deflection,the beef I have with them not being included with the kit as standard is because most people don't realize they have them and they really help with cutting down the amount of deflection and when people that email me asking me about stones as soon as I mention the reinforced spring's and tell them the benefit's they want them right away.The steel isn't much thicker from the standard spring's to the reinforced and they don't cost much more for the steel then why not throw them in if the are .50 to a buck more and just charge that amount more,plus it's not like they are making killing off of selling the reinforced spring's.

DeadboxHero said:
The TSProf is definitely one of the cooler fixed angle systems from the videos I've seen. I've never tried one. I like that it can rotate fast for deburring and shows the angle with a gauge. Looks well made.
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S.T.A.T.E.S. said:
Watch this YouTube video of a BESS test scoring 20 with a knife sharpened using a TSProf K02.
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Please don't take my comments as a bash against you or TSProf and I normally don't say much on this forum but I just couldn't help myself this time.

It almost sounds like whats being said is that the TSProf sharpener alone itself is responsible for making the edge that sharp,what wasn't mentioned is what kind of stones were used or anything else.
I'm sure if the same knife sharpened at the same angle with the same stones on a Hapstone sharpener with a table or a KME the result's would be the same if not better,I could see the Hapstone winning because of no deflection with the table.

It's like you having a pet moneky and giving him a japanese chef knive and a good sharpening stone and your monkey puts the worlds sharpest edge on a knive then by same logic I should be able to go out and buy a monkey and give him a brick and a knive and I should get the same results.

I like TSProf don't get me wrong their stuff is top shelf but what if this same test was done with a Hastone and a different knive and stone then the test wouldn't be fair,I know this isn't a competition between TSProf and Hopstone or KME wait for them to sharpen the very same knive the very same way with each system.I know from sharpening it's more about the user sometimes then anything else
 
You make a good argument about the importance of the other elements, among them the abrasives used and the technique of the person using the equipment. But, I think the sharpening device deserves a lot of credit much like in car racing, there is considerable credit given to the car, when we know that it's a team effort of driver, pit crew, tuning and tires as well.
 
My best freehand edge back when the BESS was being evaluated on the forum was a 13. I'd like to think I could do better now :D.

But yeah, anything 20 or under is solid. IIRC at about 40 you'd have nothing to complain about.
 
Just my 2 cents worth.

As someone who's worked with tools for over 40 years I assure you that it's not all the Indian.

A mechanic is no better than the tools he owns.
I will admit that knowing how to use the tools effectively also goes a long way.
 
K80Shooter said:
Just my 2 cents worth.

As someone who's worked with tools for over 40 years I assure you that it's not all the Indian.


A mechanic is no better than the tools he owns.
I will admit that knowing how to use the tools effectively also goes a long way.
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Bad mechanic blames his tools.
It's the Indian not the arrow, tools supplement not replace.
 
K80Shooter said:
Just my 2 cents worth.

As someone who's worked with tools for over 40 years I assure you that it's not all the Indian.

A mechanic is no better than the tools he owns.
I will admit that knowing how to use the tools effectively also goes a long way.
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And that's the crux. Some folks can't hold an angle without a jig, while others can. Some folks can do by eye and feel what other would require a mechanical aid to perform...assuming they mastered both the tool and the technique.

That said, a master machinist, (as my grandfather was at the Brooklyn Navy Yard), can do amazing things with the right tools...whereas for some even the best of tools are wasted.

(For the record, my comment about the Indian and arrow was made tongue in cheek for simplification.)
 
I'll stand by what I said and leave it at that.

Some comments are not even worth a reply.

Blues,
I didn't take offence to what you said or anything. I only used that word because you did.

I'm through. Carry on.
 
Please don't misunderstand what I am about to say. Microprocessors today have 10's of billions of transistors on a tiny die. The steppers travel in .1 nanometer increments. Even visible light is too big (long wavelength) to work at these scales. The human hand and eye were surpassed long, long ago in these domains. The world's best chess player is a computer. I am afraid that machines and machining are many orders of magnitude higher precision than we are. And I haven't even started to discuss Artificial Intelligence or Quantum Computing.
 
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A computer cant turn on a light bulb unless a human tells it how to. But then it can do it much faster than we can.
 
I know when I am trying to hold .0002" or less when machining the equipment matters, a lot!!! Not that technique isn't quite important, but don't underestimate the need for quality equipment or you can find yourself beating your head against the wall.

Ps, I too would like to know what abrasives were used.
 
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