I'm currently using a WE 130 and like it, but it does have some limitations and I'd also just like to try something different. I sharpen EDCs and various kitchen knives. The TSProf Kadet seems reasonably priced and looks to be well made. What's the best place to buy the system from, diamond stones and all? What's their availability like right now? Thanks for the help.
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TSProf Kadet Availability?
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It is extremely well made and a great system. Built like a tank and with lots of accessories and upgrades if you want.
The best place to buy one is at Gritomatic. They also have the best choice of stones that you'll find anywhere.
One of Gritomatic's options/choices is a basic diamond set, which works well but if you really want some awesome stones, look at Gritomatic's dual sided 6 inch Venev diamond bonded stones. Epic stones and actually great value for money as they are dual sided with 2 grits.
The best place to buy one is at Gritomatic. They also have the best choice of stones that you'll find anywhere.
One of Gritomatic's options/choices is a basic diamond set, which works well but if you really want some awesome stones, look at Gritomatic's dual sided 6 inch Venev diamond bonded stones. Epic stones and actually great value for money as they are dual sided with 2 grits.
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Here ya go, I found a link for you:
www.gritomatic.com
TSProf Kadet Knife Sharpener
TSProf Kadet - A high-precision sharpener by TSProf. Kadet sharpening system conveniently allows for the perfect sharpness of your knives. Universal clamps allow you to sharpen both folding and large hunting knives.The TSProf Kadet sharpener includes all that you need for good sharpening: a...
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What limitations are you having with your WE130? That's the system that I use.
Well, I was trying to sharpen a 9" fillet knife and the flex was really bugging me. In a search for how to deal with it, I ran across the TSProf systems and decided I want to try one. I first looked at the Kadet, but finally ordered the K03. Now I'm lost as to what diamond stones to purchase, so I've asked in a other thread. I'm sure the WE can do the job just fine, but honestly, I just wanted to try something new and different.
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Hmm, I've never sharpened one that long. The one I sharpened was just 6" long. It would be nice if Wicked Edge had some wider jaws or a wider Low Angle Adapter for longer filet knives. I know that some guys build bases to where they can put 2 or 3 vises inline for sharpening longer knives and swords. I don't have that need myself.
If it were me that had that problem, I would try a couple of thin pieces of steel about 6" long to put the filet blade in-between. That should give you the support that you need for the long thin filet blade.
If it were me that had that problem, I would try a couple of thin pieces of steel about 6" long to put the filet blade in-between. That should give you the support that you need for the long thin filet blade.
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The dual sided Venev's are really good stones.
I get where you are coming from, sometimes ya' just wanta' try something new.
Are these the stones you're referring to? https://www.gritomatic.com/collecti...s/venev-orion-series-diamond-set-for-edge-pro
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I don't have those, but someone here will know about them, the ones i have are Beta Centauri Dual Sided, they are a set of three, and they are fantastic, so you get 6 grits on 3 stones.
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The ones in your link are just as good (same binder and same diamonds), but they are more expensive. The ones in your link above has a thicker layer of diamond resin than the ones I am referring to, and they are single sided. Here are 2 links for you of the dual sided ones I am referring to:
Venev Centaur Series Dual Side Diamond (3)Stone Set [6" x 1"]
Venev Centaur Series Dual Side Diamonds are used for sharpening knives on Hapstone and TSProf guided knife sharpeners, as well as freehand sharpening. Diamond sharpening stones offer excellent performance in sharpening knives of any steel.Centaur Series is dual side diamond with two 1 mm-thick...
www.gritomatic.com
Venev Ursa Series Dual Side Diamond (3)Stone Set [6" x 0.6"]
Venev Ursa Series Dual Side Diamonds are used for sharpening knives on Hapstone and TSProf guided knife sharpeners, as well as freehand sharpening. Diamond sharpening stones offer excellent performance in sharpening knives of any steel.Ursa Series is 16 mm wide dual side diamond with two 1...
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The dual sided stones are exactly the same, but have a thinner layer of diamond resin on each side. Don't let the thickness of the layer put you off though, they will last a very very long time because the resin compound used is hard and durable. If you don't sharpen professionally, then the thickness of the layer on the dual sided ones will last a lifetime.
Just make sure you get the "100%" diamond loading version. I think they are phasing out the "25%" and "50%" loading versions anyhow so they might only have the 100% in stock anyways.
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BTW, you're gonna love the K03. It's the top of the line. If you haven't confirmed your order or have it shipped yet, just make sure yours has the "Extended angle height adjuster".
Thanks. Hope I do love the K03. I was concerned about the fit of the dual sided stones with the K03? Also, Like that the single sided set goes up to 4000. Do they make additional dual sided diamonds that go up that high?
By the way, thank you so much for giving me all this info. Like I said, I know WE, but I'm lost when it comes to the K03.
By the way, thank you so much for giving me all this info. Like I said, I know WE, but I'm lost when it comes to the K03.
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The K03 Stone holder holds the dual sided Venev stones very well and perfectly secure. I've had no issues at all with how it clamps them.
Regarding your point about the single sided stones up to 4000 grit - you are talking about the Edge Pro Matrix stones here; they go up to 4000 grit.(Which is about 5-6 micron size diamond particles). But make sure to read on...
The Venev single sided stones go up to Fepa-F 1200 (2-3 micron size diamond particles). Single sided and dual sided Venev stones are the exact same grit ratings, there is no Venev 4000, only a Edge Pro Matrix 4000.
Be careful to compare apples with apples here, because the grit ratings used is vastly different with different stone brands. This is a mistake many people make when comparing "grits with grits".
Venev uses the Fepa-F grit rating, and they also list the average diamond particle size for completeness. The Venev 1200 is a much finer stone than the EP Matrix 4000. As an example, if you would compare Fepa-F 1200 grit to Japanese JIS rating, then it would equate to about 5000+ grit JIS.
As a matter of interest, some background info if you are interested - Venev offered a 2000 grit (Fepa-F) diamond stone for a while, which is around 1 micron diamond particle size. (That would equate to about the same as a Japanese Shapton 16k in particle size). They found that the "binder" actually caused a scratch pattern coarser than the actual diamond particles, so they replaced most of their finer grit stones (400 and up) with a new binder a year or two back. They call it "OCB" binder. It works a lot better with the finer grits. Unfortunately, they still found that in their 2000 grit stone, the diamonds clumped together and caused scratch patterns equal to lower grits. Because of this, they are not really offering the 2000 grit any more.....but honestly the 1200 leaves a killer finish already. If you want to take it higher from there, then loaded strops are the way to go.
Regarding your point about the single sided stones up to 4000 grit - you are talking about the Edge Pro Matrix stones here; they go up to 4000 grit.(Which is about 5-6 micron size diamond particles). But make sure to read on...
The Venev single sided stones go up to Fepa-F 1200 (2-3 micron size diamond particles). Single sided and dual sided Venev stones are the exact same grit ratings, there is no Venev 4000, only a Edge Pro Matrix 4000.
Be careful to compare apples with apples here, because the grit ratings used is vastly different with different stone brands. This is a mistake many people make when comparing "grits with grits".
Venev uses the Fepa-F grit rating, and they also list the average diamond particle size for completeness. The Venev 1200 is a much finer stone than the EP Matrix 4000. As an example, if you would compare Fepa-F 1200 grit to Japanese JIS rating, then it would equate to about 5000+ grit JIS.
As a matter of interest, some background info if you are interested - Venev offered a 2000 grit (Fepa-F) diamond stone for a while, which is around 1 micron diamond particle size. (That would equate to about the same as a Japanese Shapton 16k in particle size). They found that the "binder" actually caused a scratch pattern coarser than the actual diamond particles, so they replaced most of their finer grit stones (400 and up) with a new binder a year or two back. They call it "OCB" binder. It works a lot better with the finer grits. Unfortunately, they still found that in their 2000 grit stone, the diamonds clumped together and caused scratch patterns equal to lower grits. Because of this, they are not really offering the 2000 grit any more.....but honestly the 1200 leaves a killer finish already. If you want to take it higher from there, then loaded strops are the way to go.
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To bring your edges to a true mirror polish, you might want to use the Diamond Lapping Film set of 6 'grits' (9, 6, 3, 1, 0.5 and 0.1 microns) with aluminum backer for each 'grit'. These are exclusively available on our website.
Order from Gritomatic and not directly from TSPROF in the US. They do have a group in the US. Still working through a part damaged in shipping with the factory reps in the US and after many weeks. I have to purchase a replacement, no warranty since their factory technicians claim I broke it. TSPROF says its not possible to have something damaged in shipping.
Nothing but good experiences with Gritomatic though. I have a Kadet and like it a lot.
Nothing but good experiences with Gritomatic though. I have a Kadet and like it a lot.
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