TSProf with KME Stones?

Airedale1

Airedale1

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I'm in the process of learning about which knife sharpening system I want.

That being said, I want to know if I buy the TSProf will I be able to purchase KME diamond stones separately and most importantl, will they fit the TSProf system?

I read that the TSProf accepts stones that are from 6" to 8.5" long, but I don't know the dimensions of KME stones.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
KME stones are 4" x 1", to judge by the strop I accidentally bought when I really wanted EdgePro size.
 
Airedale1 said:
I'm in the process of learning about which knife sharpening system I want.

That being said, I want to know if I buy the TSProf will I be able to purchase KME diamond stones separately and most importantl, will they fit the TSProf system?

I read that the TSProf accepts stones that are from 6" to 8.5" long, but I don't know the dimensions of KME stones.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Kme stones are small. If you have a TSPtof use the edge pro format. Gritomatic.com has all the info you need to buy TSProf compatible stones.
 
Airedale1 said:
I'm in the process of learning about which knife sharpening system I want.

That being said, I want to know if I buy the TSProf will I be able to purchase KME diamond stones separately and most importantl, will they fit the TSProf system?

I read that the TSProf accepts stones that are from 6" to 8.5" long, but I don't know the dimensions of KME stones.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Buy a full set of Venev diamond stones from gritomatic in 100% concentration they are great stones that do an excellent job on any steel you throw at them,you also need to flatten them every so often with aluminum oxide powder on a peace of glass.

https://www.gritomatic.com/products...set-for-edge-pro?_pos=10&_sid=49fe09891&_ss=r
 
There are other US dealers as well for TSProf products including Venev diamond stones.
 
What is the difference between Venev diamond stones from gritomatic in 100% concentration and OCB stones?
 
F fools1234 The difference is that when the first Venev stones were released they used a harder resin and it left more scratch's then desired.

There are still some Venev stones that use the original resin and those would be the 60 80 150 and 240,the 400 800 and 1200 use the new OCB resin.

The 60 80 150 and 240 stones are not what most people use as a finishing stone so there was no need to change that resin,the 400 800 and 1200 remove more scratch's then the original 400 800 and 1200 and they also give you a more refined and sharper edge.

The OCB and the original resin wear about the same it's the edge quality that's different.
 
RoMo said:
Don’t you hate it when you are an early purchaser and get screwed by not waiting?
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The Venev stones were on the market for 2 years or longer before they changed the resin,it's no different then other company it happen's all the time,plus it's better they changed the resin to a better one then to never changed it at all.

The original resin is fine if you use water stones to finish after them and if not he edge quality isn't terrible it's just not as good as it can be.
 
Scott, Diemaker, here on BF, produces the bonded diamonds for sale at Edgepro and Gritomatic, a BF dealer. Scott has a huge thread in maintenance forum of his passing around the stones to get feedback before production. I had a full set of Venev's first gen bonded diamonds b4 Scott started that thread, but the knowledgebase for Scott's stone's is very robust, and very positive, for all kinds of uses! I learned alot. BTW, I'm satisfied with service I'm getting from Venev's.
 
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wade7575 said:
scottc3 scottc3 Have you tried any of the new Venev OCB resin stones yet.
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I have not, we are generally stopping at 1200 / 1500, though I personally have been playing with stopping at 600 / 800 with Benchmade's s30v. I like this s30v. The grit range represents KME and first gen Venev's, very different but I'm glad to have diamonds.

OP, in addition to what form factor to buy, be aware of subtle but relevant difference between plated KME, and bonded diamond stones like Venev's or Scott's aka Diemaker EdgePro diamonds-
As a household, I wonder how long before the Venev's will need dressing, years I suspect, so the difference relative to home user stone maintenance for the plated KME's vs Bonded like Venev's or Scott's aka Diemaker EdgePro diamonds is academic practically speaking. Of course as a hobbyist, I'm going to dress my Venev's long before they need it, to experience the change I can effect in the dressing process. I will be going after a rougher surface with a little more bite.
OP, the TSProf is worthy of industrial awards by my eyes, but concomitant with the engineering, accessories are expensive. Think about your uses and make sure to learn as much as possible about the different kits, to match your needs and minimize after purchase buying needs. Start right here at BF, using what you learn to build a word bank for searching elsewhere for folks that have grown with TSProf.
 
wade7575 said:
The Venev stones were on the market for 2 years or longer before they changed the resin,it's no different then other company it happen's all the time,plus it's better they changed the resin to a better one then to never changed it at all.

The original resin is fine if you use water stones to finish after them and if not he edge quality isn't terrible it's just not as good as it can be.
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Wade, I had a membership for years and finally didn’t renew. For some reason just as soon as I read your email, it disappeared. Someone else also wrote me an email and it also disappeared. My apologies to you and who else responded to me for not writing you back.
 
wade7575 said:
F fools1234 The difference is that when the first Venev stones were released they used a harder resin and it left more scratch's then desired.

There are still some Venev stones that use the original resin and those would be the 60 80 150 and 240,the 400 800 and 1200 use the new OCB resin.

The 60 80 150 and 240 stones are not what most people use as a finishing stone so there was no need to change that resin,the 400 800 and 1200 remove more scratch's then the original 400 800 and 1200 and they also give you a more refined and sharper edge.

The OCB and the original resin wear about the same it's the edge quality that's different.
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How do you compare these to the Diamond matrix stones? I have the Venev currently as I got a good deal purchasing them together with EP Apex, but curious about the Diamond matrix as well as their metallic bonded cbn.
 
craigdt said:
Yes, somehow I ended up with this exact problem as well.

Won't fit the TSProf, unless Im missing something.
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There is an easy fix to the problem. The TSProf stone holders will work with 4 1/4 inch stones. Find a piece of square cross section stock aluminum or even wood. Cut it to 1 inch in length. Then place it at the end of the KME stone and tighten them into the K03 or Blitz stone holder. It works fine.
 
maximus83 said:
How do you compare these to the Diamond matrix stones? I have the Venev currently as I got a good deal purchasing them together with EP Apex, but curious about the Diamond matrix as well as their metallic bonded cbn.
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I’ve used Venev and Matrix stones and liked the Matrix better for feel results and cleaning. Wade has tried both and likes the Venev better so it sounds like personal preference thing, Ford vs Chevy....
Metallic bond stones don’t seem to last well at all, but with any brand of diamond stone the secret is sin a light touch or easy stroke, don’t lean into it, the softer the better actually.
 
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