Two heads cracked in leading edge of eyes (lots of photos)

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I ended up winning an eBay auction for three heads. All plumb. One Boy Scout hatchet, one axe head and one "U.S. 1945". The goal was to buy these for every day use so aesthetics doesn't matter that much. The Boy Scout head is in the worst condition (but I'm perfectly fine with it and would have been happy if all three were in that condition). The bit is ground poorly and the poll has been hammered on a bunch but its solid and can be sorted with some TLC.

The axe head and the 1945 hatchet head are in what I think is very good condition; much better than I was expecting. The bit profiles are good, polls are square and not hammered much, and the cheeks are not rusted or pitted very much at all. But... The axe head has a crack on the leading edge of the eye that is about 1/8" deep that goes the entire length of the eye. The US 1945 head has a smaller crack about 1/8" deep that looks to go only about 1/2"-3/4" down the eye from the top of the head down about one-third of the leading edge of the eye.

I forget the exact price, about $35-40 for all three. The seller is very willing to issue a refund, etc. and has been very easy to talk to/work with. As I'm new to this stuff, could you guys please look at the photos and tell me if the axe and hatchet heads are safe to use? I'm not interested in repairing them however I'd go right back out and start looking for another US-1940's issue hatchet head and lighter plumb axe head so if they are safe and won't be an issue, I'm wondering if I should just keep these and deal vs. return. Thanks.




















 
I see that in a few axes, especially Plumbs. That worse one is borderline because it's wider than normal, the other probably nothing to worry about. Hard to say but I wouldn't worry about either one. The rest is made up of probably good steel and forging. It would take a lot to crack it through. It does happen though.
 
the small crack is no problem, see this a lot with plumbs.
the other axe with the longer crack in the eye could easily be welded and filed down with a chainsaw file or dremel.
i would find a competent welder and get it done.
 
OK... So I was really after the two hatchets and I considered the axe an added bonus. Question: Should I just hang them and be done with it, hang the Boy Scout hatchet only and weld the other two prior to hanging --or return them? My gut tells me to hang the Boy Scout, leave the rest for "someday" and move on. Thoughts? Thank you for feedback. I feel badly now that I sent the seller a message about the cracks. Feeling like I might as well just keep them as once they are welded they will be exactly what I had wanted for daily/working axes. Thanks again.
 
if those are the type of forged heads with the soft steel body, and the hard edge made of a different steel, i would consider it a natural occurrence since that is where the two pieces of soft steel meet when it was bent around a form as it was manufactured. the forge weld probably didn't have the same integrity as the metal so it naturally disintegrated first from age.
 
At that price I would keep and use but keep an eye out for any further cracking
 
Thank you all for the feedback. If the eBay seller sees this I apologize for being such a stickler over the cracks!
 
. . . If the eBay seller sees this I apologize for being such a stickler over the cracks!

IMO if the cracks were not in the sellers description or pictures, you have nothing to apologize for. And you did the right thing to contact the seller.

Bob
 
I would hang and use the axes. Those type of cracks aren't too unusual. If you research how older axes are made, you will see how this happens. They look like good quality axe heads. If you think the seller misrepresented them, I would continue working with him/her to get it resolved.

My first quality axe was a Plumb I inherited from my grandfather. When I figured out what a good axe it was, it started me down a path of collecting way more axes than I can ever use.

Nice finds.
 
Technically, Thats not a crack, but in blacksmith lingo, Its a "shut".
Formed as the eye is slightly oversize when initially drifted open. Then the eye is pressed upon a mandrel of the precise finished size.

A good percentage of axes exhibit this condition, Provided that shut not propagated into a real crack (whats uncommon)
Its of no concern
 
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