Two more Swords

Left one is a 1796 Pattern Light Cavalry Sabre. Looks British, any markings? The metal scabbard is so it can be sheathed easily on horseback.

Repro shown here
http://www.bladehaus.itcstore.com/Store/catalog.aspx?catId=274902

Real one here
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/blcs14.htm

US versions here, but the hilt isn't as flat
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/bq1326.html
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/usms2.html

This is better
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/bq566.htm

I am dithering on the one on the right. French or USA? Also a light sabre, am guessing for an officer.

They are both sharp because they are 'working swords' as opposed to being for show. Both very collectible.
 
Andrew Taylor said:
Left one is a 1796 Pattern Light Cavalry Sabre. Looks British, any markings? The metal scabbard is so it can be sheathed easily on horseback.


I am dithering on the one on the right. French or USA? Also a light sabre, am guessing for an officer.

They are both sharp because they are 'working swords' as opposed to being for show. Both very collectible.
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Good morning Andrew.

Yes there are markings on the one on the right, the markings, makers marks? are shown along in the photo. I was thinking it was Cavalry... the other night watched A Few Good Men (again) and over the door of the COs office was a very similar if not the sword -only with what looked to be a carved ivory hilt. Has anyone else notice that up there in the movie?

These both feel and look like working swords. I must be learning something scary thought eh? I'm up against deadlines today.... The best thing about working time and a half over the holiday is that I know I can go knife shopping online with some of the results when the dust settles LOL. I am leaning toward the Onions and the inlaid knives. They have to have clips on them...


Linda
 
I read over in the Military Swords Forum in SwordForum that the French of the Napoleonic Wars period complained about that British Model 1796 Light Dragoon Saber as they thought that it was unnecessarily brutal! If you look at the British enlisted men's version, it is very much biased towards the tip and it was a very effective piece for removing arms and heads.
 
FullerH said:
I read over in the Military Swords Forum in SwordForum that the French of the Napoleonic Wars period complained about that British Model 1796 Light Dragoon Saber as they thought that it was unnecessarily brutal! If you look at the British enlisted men's version, it is very much biased towards the tip and it was a very effective piece for removing arms and heads.
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Proof that people have been involved in absurdity when it comes to the "rules of war" for a long time. What is more brutal, having your head removed by a saber or being shredded by grape shot? Does it matter when you are just as dead?
 
Triton said:
What is more brutal, having your head removed by a saber or being shredded by grape shot? Does it matter when you are just as dead?
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In my readings online, I ran across the text regarding the Dragoon sabre being "too brutal" and I had the same thought. But is one a quicker death than the other perhaps only the victim knows. I think it boils down to the executioner, stlye and situation of encounter. Yeah, the net result is the same.

And a question, is there room for compassionate killing during War or at any time there is a killing to be done - my brother was a Mercenary so I am not incapable or shy of pondering these things. Is that why we have nukes and other high tech methods of killing now so we can do it from a distance vis up close and personal as with a sword, knife, martial arts or other traditional older means?

BTW my dad killed himself at home with a 45 (long illness), yes it was quick and efficient and I often wonder if he had thoughts following the incident, when he was actually going through the death process. Would grape shot have been quicker? I doubt it. How about a Sword? -that would depend on the weilder and the sword.

I'll probably work on this one the rest of the day and it's going to be a long one, i'm here to 8pm. I don't mean to offend anyone or sound sarcastic should I come across that way. I am just writing as I am thinking about this thread...

Linda at work.
 
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